yeah, pearls before swine I tell you....pearls before swine...
AD seems to simply follow the road to the easyest buck with no
consideration for much else. There's nothing wrong with making a buck.
But a badly managed business that goes for the biggest profit possible
by blindy following the route of taking as much as they can and giving
back as little as possible in return, can easily end up something
resembling a parasite.
And when I look at what AD has been giving us, in return for our hard
earned subsciption money over the years. And what they have done with
Softimage now, they are really striving for that. They suck up and burn
3rd party innovation and customer cash without giving much in return.
-Ronald
On 3/25/2014 12:17, Emilio Hernandez wrote:
I am sorry to raise the fuel again on this one, and it has nothing to
do with you Maurice nor Chris.
I have not read any answer from Autodesk that really is convincing of
why Autodesk is not being able to still ship Softimage with Maya/Max
after April 2016, or do the same thing as they are going to do with
Toxic and Matchmover.
All is mumble jumble about "wanting to focuse" into products that are
more popular, that does not mean they are better.
My personal conclution is that Softimage was getting more attention
lately, and the Maya "innovation and creativity" project was starting
to fall appart. So the only viable solution for this was to put a
bullet in the head and another one into the heart of Softimage. So
people will turn away their sight from the death corpse after some PR.
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Emilio Hernández VFX & 3D animation.
2014-03-25 4:43 GMT-06:00 Saeed Kalhor <ndman...@gmail.com
<mailto:ndman...@gmail.com>>:
He is a DICTATOR!!!
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 6:41 AM, Perry Harovas
<perryharo...@gmail.com <mailto:perryharo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
If you really want to be scared, listen to this audio
interview with Carl Bass.
The link cuts right to the appropriate moment, but you should
listen to the entire thing if you have the chance.
Essentially, he is saying that when you have competing
products, it isn't a good idea to exert control, piss off
customers
and try to force them to use another one of your products,
when they already use one of yours.
He says killing a product will just lead to about half of them
saying, essentially, screw you.
Wow, he should take his own advice from 13 months ago...
Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9-yZ5JVOBA#t=1054
And he was only talking about a PLUGIN... He was talking about
T-Splines, and how customers would revolt and probably use the
competitors
products if Autodesk forced them use only use it with their
own software, instead of working in the apps of the competition.
The interview is also scary for how much (especially if you
listen to the entire interview) he wants all Autodesk apps on
the cloud.
ALL OF THEM.
Uh, no thank you. A choice, sure, but to have software only
available on the cloud would really annoy me, if I was still
using Autodesk products...
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Emilio Hernandez
<emi...@e-roja.com <mailto:emi...@e-roja.com>> wrote:
Well it is not that we are "investing" in Softimage.
Let's put it on another perspective.
We want Maya or MAX to continue having the Softimage
plugin as it is.
Autodesk will have its money and we will have our Maya/MAX
with the Softimage plugin.
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Emilio Hernández VFX & 3D animation.
2014-03-24 17:21 GMT-06:00 Maurice Patel
<maurice.pa...@autodesk.com
<mailto:maurice.pa...@autodesk.com>>:
If you buy a license now you will have a certain
flexibility later to add new licenses. But ultimately,
yes, the program was built for existing customers to
be able (if they want) to transition their licenses to
3ds Max and Maya and not really for new customers to
be able to invest in Softimage.
maurice
> On Mar 24, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Martin
<furik...@gmail.com <mailto:furik...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Maurice
>
> I don't think anyone who is going to start a CG
career will do it based on SI even if you don't stop
selling it for a few months or years! It isn't logic
to do it. Only those who are already Softimage users
and have Softimage based projects running will need
new licenses to use a few years more.
>
> There are still too many projects based on Softimage
in the industry and we need to be able to buy
Softimage licenses for at least a year or two to be
able to pick those jobs and finish them!
>
> I was planning to buy one license soon, go freelance
and probably buy a few more later before the
announcement. So should I just give up and don't take
those jobs ? just because you decided that that was
the best solution for us? You should have give us time
to plan what to do with our business.
>
> Isn't it bad enough that you discontinue, without
warning, the best tool we have to make a living ?
>
> Martin
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 2014/03/25, at 4:27, Maurice Patel
<maurice.pa...@autodesk.com
<mailto:maurice.pa...@autodesk.com>> wrote:
>>
>> The bundle is a transition bundle therefore it is
only for those who
>> already have Softimage to get access to Maya or 3s
Max for free
>> Existing customers can also purchase new seats to
increase capacity if they need to Softimage is
discontinued from sale because we would prefer for
anyone starting a career or a business not to do so on
a product we are no longer developing. However if you
really want it there is an option: Softimage will be
in the Ultimate Suite for 2 more years, If you are a
student with an accredited institution you should
qualify for special discount rate too.
>> BTW - everything has a cost and implementing and
maintaining
>> offerings in our systems is not trivial Maurice
>>
>>
>> Maurice Patel
>> Autodesk : Tél: 514 954-7134 <tel:514%20954-7134>
>>
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] On
Behalf Of Emilio
>> Hernandez
>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 2:59 PM
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
>> Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Carl Bass
>>
>> What I still don't understand is why Autodesk
cannot still deliver Softimage last version to Max or
Maya suite, bundle or whatever name it has.
>> I know they've saying a lot of reasons, but really
none of them makes anysense to me.
>>
>> After all we will be buying Maya, MAX seats to get
Softimage. It still means revenue from them for a
software they are going to stop devoloping, addressing
bugs or fixes.
>> Ok. Don't sell Softimage seats perse, but package
Softimage like Toxic. Let the user decide what tool
he wants to work with. Just keep the Send to
Softimage button regardless of the Maya version.
>> This is no additional cost to Autodesk.
>>
>> Is this too much to ask?
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> Emilio Hernández VFX & 3D animation.
>>
>> 2014-03-24 12:23 GMT-06:00 Nuno Conceicao
<nunoalexconcei...@gmail.com
<mailto:nunoalexconcei...@gmail.com><mailto:nunoalexconcei...@gmail.com
<mailto:nunoalexconcei...@gmail.com>>>:
>> So for what I understood you can buy your first
license only till the 28th then after this you are
able to purchase more.
>> If you have no licenses after this date you wont be
able to purchase
>> Softimage anymore... :( So I would suggest you get
in touch with a
>> retailer asap, he will be able to confirm this info
obviously
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Nuno Conceicao
<nunoalexconcei...@gmail.com
<mailto:nunoalexconcei...@gmail.com><mailto:nunoalexconcei...@gmail.com
<mailto:nunoalexconcei...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> I think you have until the 28th March to be able to
purchase
>> Softimage for the first time (not a current client)
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Martin
<furik...@gmail.com
<mailto:furik...@gmail.com><mailto:furik...@gmail.com
<mailto:furik...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> Hi Maurice,
>> Where can I have more info about this ? I was
contemplating the possibility to buy a few licenses in
the near future before the EOL announcement because I
will most probably have some SI projects on my own and
I don't have a commercial license right now (I work
with my current employer license) and may need extra
hands later, so If I buy the current version would I
be able to purchase a few more seats later? Or am I
too late for this?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Martin
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 2014/03/25, at 1:07, Maurice Patel
>>> <maurice.pa...@autodesk.com
<mailto:maurice.pa...@autodesk.com><mailto:maurice.pa...@autodesk.com
<mailto:maurice.pa...@autodesk.com>>>
>>> wrote
>>>
>>> Softimage will be available too but under slightly
different conditions: prior version usage.
>>
>>
>>
>> <winmail.dat>
>
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