For some, I don't think nostalgia is in the picture here when it comes to
Mental Ray. If you're not looking for a facsimile of physical reality from
you're renderer, Mental Ray has a lot of tricks up it's sleeves that make
it even faster than Redshift, never mind Arnold. Obviously for path
tracing, the new breed offer far faster results.

It seems that we've been chasing physically based rendering results for so
long we've forgotten there are other things a renderer should be capable of.

On 20 November 2017 at 13:10, Andres Stephens <drais...@outlook.com> wrote:

> Sometimes I could optimize MR and use it for more graphical things that
> would do me better than Arnold and it's noise..
>
> -Draise
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> Really? I would think there is no case that a frame in Arnold tooks this
> longer than MR. Given the same techniques were used and you have the same
> knowledge of both.
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> So sad :(
> I've just done a project using this render engine in which each 2k frame
> with film production quality took 6 min to be rendered by a single Intel
> 4790k CPU. But each frame needs more than 1 hour to be rendered by Arnold
> renderer.
>
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>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Jonathan Moore <jonathan.moo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The people that will most definitely be missing Mental Ray are those that
> use it's excellent toon shading capabilities. In this new fangled world of
> 'physically based rendering', NPR shading has seen no real attention from
> the majority of the new players.
>
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> On 20 November 2017 at 12:02, Sven Constable <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>
> wrote:
>
> Well, it was a long time. Goodbye my old, slow, buggy, picky, delicate and
> crash prone friend. :) On the other side, I'm working with MR at the moment.
>
>
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