I wonder if Paul brought more than his executive rucksack with him on his
first day at the office? ;)


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> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> on behalf of Gustavo Eggert
> Boehs <gustav...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* 12 November 2017 22:44:34
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> *Subject:* Re: Fabric engine is gone
>
> Hey Jonathan, glad to hear Motion Tools is still of service. I'm also a
> very happy Mootzoid customer and can only wish Eric all the best.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gustavo E Boehs
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> 2017-11-10 19:38 GMT-02:00 Jonathan Moore <jonathan.moo...@gmail.com>:
>
> Hey list, having used Fabric Engine intensively for the last few years I
> thought it would be nice to share a few words about what it was and the
> void it leaves as it is no longer developed.
> Here is the link for that post: 
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>
> Look forward to reading this. I've followed what you've been up to ref
> neural networks and suchlike.
>
> I still make use of Motion Tools on a regular basis as they make perfect
> bedfellows to Eric M's wonderful suit of delights. Really hope Eric isn't
> out in the cold for too long. A man with Eric's talents should have his
> pick of roles in an ideal and fair world.
>
> On 10 November 2017 at 18:41, Gustavo Eggert Boehs <gustav...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hey list, having used Fabric Engine intensively for the last few years I
> thought it would be nice to share a few words about what it was and the
> void it leaves as it is no longer developed.
> Here is the link for that post: 
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> Cheers,
> Gustavo E Boehs
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> 2017-11-07 12:14 GMT-02:00 Enter Reality <3dv...@gmail.com>:
>
> Just received the email, Lagoa is also gone
>
> 2017-11-02 22:53 GMT+01:00 Andreas Bystrom <andreas.byst...@gmail.com>:
>
> "What's funny is, I interviewed with Weta and Dneg recently and they both
> asked me a lot about fabricengine (it occupied the majority of the
> interviews) and expressed their intentions to leverage it more.
> When this was announced, we had a meeting at Dneg.  It was like, "Crap,
> well, there goes a few years of invested time for our new system built
> around fabricEngine"
> Weta mentioned that they were tossing their in-house node based system
> they'd spent several years developing in favour of fabric."
>
> do you really think you should be posting something that was discussed
> during a private interview at these companies on a public forum like this?
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Michael Amasio <michael.ama...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> What's funny is, I interviewed with Weta and Dneg recently and they both
> asked me a lot about fabricengine (it occupied the majority of the
> interviews) and expressed their intentions to leverage it more.
>
> When this was announced, we had a meeting at Dneg.  It was like, "Crap,
> well, there goes a few years of invested time for our new system built
> around fabricEngine"
>
> Weta mentioned that they were tossing their in-house node based system
> they'd spent several years developing in favour of fabric.
>
> Really sad to see it go.  It looks like it needed just a few more years to
> find it's footing.  I hope someone buys it and hires a few of the
> developers to continue its progress.
> Crap is anyone at Weta right now?  Are they buying it? Go rumors!!!
>
> I feel like the core team of Fabric was like "Here's what you want, you
> just don't know it yet" and even though it was an uphill slog through the
> mire, companies were just starting to be like, "Yeah, that is what we want".
> If anything, I've seen real progress at a few places to start replacing
> DCC's with standalone python inputs.
> GUI's that gather the core information for things like rigging and CFX in
> generic containers and then pass it to the DCC for actual execution.  I've
> really enjoyed writing some stuff using USD and passing information between
> Unreal and Clarisse and Maya.
> Unreal isn't going anywhere and a lot of work I'm doing could potentially
> leave the heavy lifting deformers for a product like Ziva.
> I'm really hoping that the progress some people are making to have Unreal
> operate as a legitimate animation package continues.  It's still a ways
> off, but the potential is exciting and Unreal isn't running out of money
> anytime soon.
>
> It's nice seeing people start to realize that Maya isn't the
> here-all-end-all of necessity.
> I personally couldn't be happier if it died a quick and extremely
> unprofitable demise.
>
> I just spent the day rewriting very elegant ICE deformers into hacky Maya
> versions. *frown*
>
> Anywho upwards and downwards!
>
>
> On Oct 28, 2017 5:46 AM, "Jason S" <jasonsta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I agree with everything you said..
>
> And I'm also saddened to see fabric close-up it's doors, especially in
> this already diversity deprived environment.
> & all the best to the FE team!
>
> On 10/27/17 17:59, Jonathan Moore wrote:
>
> MPC and PSYOP output some great work with Fabric Engine but in the end I
> always felt it was too narrowly aimed at senior TD's with plenty of
> programming experience. The success of ICE was fuelled by the compounds
> that acted as a gateway drug to the inner workings. I thought maybe that
> Kraken would develop into that gateway drug, but after seeing experienced
> riggers feeling out of their comfort zone, soon realised it wasn't to be.
>
> When Eric Mootz joined the team I thought maybe that would bring about
> tools for technically minded artists who weren't necessarily TD's.
>
> Whatever the reasons I feel for the FE team after all their hard efforts.
> But I feel as one door closes others will open for them, folk with that
> much talent don't remain jobless for long.
>
>
> On 10/28/17 5:19, Michael Amasio wrote:
>
> That's too bad.
> This is rough market.  There's not much money in developing better
> solutions.  I guess we'll ride out our DCC's with ancient architecture, and
> wait till one of us becomes a billionaire and funds something cutting edge.
> I'd love to here more of the story of what happened from some of the
> developers.
>
> Guess I'll finally follow you to Houdini, Oliver.
>
> On Oct 28, 2017 12:31 AM, "Olivier Jeannel" <facialdel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
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