Well said Morten, well said. When you pick up controller and move a prop in scene and maya crashes out of the blue... simply hard to resist any chance to vent a bit.
On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 4:19 PM, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk> wrote: > > It is easy to sit happily in Houdini-land and wonder about the ongoing > display of dislike for AD. > If you were forced to use their shitty tools every day it might be easier > for you to understand why an initial serious dislike of them deepens. It is > simply not something you get easily over when a happy worklife (with XSI) > has become a mediocre to shitty one using Maya. Some of us can't choose > freely. > > Thanks for your input over the years Dan - you have definately contributed > to the quality and good nature of this list. > > If Side FX finally manages (or chooses) to make Houdini accessible to less > technically inclined artists, we might meet again :) Bye and keep the good > memories. > > Morten > > > > Den 15. marts 2018 klokken 13:56 skrev Dan Yargici <danyarg...@gmail.com > >: > > > > > > Hey guys and gals, > > > > I stayed subscribed to the list over these last few years since I moved > > over to Houdini (haven't touched Softimage in 2 years now!) as > occasionally > > a little nugget of useful, non-Softimage specific information would still > > surface through the Autodesk-hating noise (I should add that I also > > massively dislike Autodesk, I just don't see any point in expending as > much > > energy in stating it as some people). > > > > I think the time has now come to pull the plug and sign off. > > > > Not trying to be dramatic, just felt I should acknowledge the last 18 > years > > that I've been on the list interacting with so many people I respect so > > much who generously took the time to share so much of their knowledge > with > > a 'bye and thanks for the memories!' post. > > > > So, bye and thanks for the memories! > > > > It's been a great pleasure. Good luck with whatever the future holds! > > > > DAN > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Nicole Beeckmans-Jacqmain < > > arc.ann...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > i don't understand why so many users of softimage have , it seems from > > > your posts here, > > > turned to Maya, which, if less easy to understand, is yet positively > > > evolving it's tools, that's why i say AD is good > > > > > > AD is something like a gentle farmer of the 3d tools. > > > > > > yet it is a US farmer, which means it is an industry. > > > > > > if users turn to Maya, it's from being 'encouraged' to do so by their > > > bosses in the 3d industry > > > > > > now why has the industry faltered during the years 2000 between XSI and > > > Maya, and finally chosen Maya, > > > i might be given counter-argument to that, but I think ''Disney'' (who > > > creates the standards, who is the most creative, being a big industrial > > > farmer) > > > got threatened by the upheaval from the underground which came along > with > > > non-''Disney'' actors, like the music video scenes and popularisation > of > > > nodes and mudboxes > > > all over the planet, just in a time where it has been decided the > Marvel > > > DC comic should change the way Hollywood targets the whole planet. > > > > > > about Nasa, the Nazi scientists from defeated Germany went hired by > Nasa > > > in the rocket launchers competition against Stalin etc. > > > > > > (there is a famous underground cult-book by Thomas Pynchon who > elaborates > > > on the tight (sexual?) relation between US and Nazi, 'Gravity Rainbow. > > > Laurie Anderson wanted to turn this book into an opera) > > > > > > given the destruction in Syria at this time, or for example in Vietnam > > > before, and the industrial farms, and the roles of narratives and > images in > > > advertising and colonization of non-US realities, and arts, > > > i think it is fair to say that i, poor individual, alone, not > charismatic > > > leader not wanting to influence anyone into my views, think that AD is > a > > > mix of good, and evil. > > > > > > it is good, because they can be helpful, and can be innovative, if > your on > > > the right side of their story, and even if not, because, at least up to > > > this moment, > > > Maya can be rented by middle class directors doing research in digital > > > painting and 3D. yet, if nothing changes, if Trump gets re-elected in > 2020, > > > soon the best tools will only be available for those hired by the > "Disney" > > > farms, > > > while poor individuals, non charismatic, will be given a text-to-speech > > > processor and a facebook page to post memes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2018-03-15 10:55 GMT+01:00 Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>: > > > > > >> How is Nasa evil? > > >> > > >> AD is US corporate greed, perhaps not at its worst, but bad as they > come. > > >> > > >> Morten > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Den 14. marts 2018 klokken 12:47 skrev Nicole Beeckmans-Jacqmain < > > >> arc.ann...@gmail.com>: > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > I see AD a bit like the Nasa, it's a mix of good, and evil > > >> > > > >> > 2018-03-14 10:13 GMT+01:00 Mirko Jankovic < > mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com>: > > >> > > > >> > > well once they take your money and lock you up in subscription and > > >> push > > >> > > you to buy software that they think you need, then sure support is > > >> there to > > >> > > help you. > > >> > > but just you try resisting.. ;) > > >> > > > > >> > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy < > > >> x...@colorshopvfx.dk> > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > >> I have absolutely!! no love for AD but I will chime in on this. > We > > >> had > > >> > >> stupid issues with getting our new Maya licenses working after > > >> upgrading > > >> > >> FlexLM (the pile of crap) which was required for running newer > Maya > > >> > >> versions. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> I reported the issue and the next day a AD license support person > > >> > >> actually called me on the phone and resolved the issue via remote > > >> support. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> The solution was horribly stupid and involved fixing windows > > >> files(!) but > > >> > >> eventually it worked. A negative sideeffect was that now > Softimage > > >> takes > > >> > >> ages to start up (probably because it takes a long time to get > licens > > >> > >> granted) Grrrr > > >> > >> > > >> > >> I was surprised and pleased about the call, and it goes to show > that > > >> not > > >> > >> everything is bad at AD. It doesn't change my dislike of their > > >> corporate > > >> > >> policies and software offerings though. Maya is still crap. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Morten > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Den 12. marts 2018 klokken 20:02 skrev Sven Constable < > > >> > >> sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>: > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > just contacted ADSK support about the issue, that an old > network > > >> license > > >> > >> > (softimage 2011) was not listed in my account. 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