Eeeer actually there are a lot of guys working on H in Paris. Checkout some french Houdini discord https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__discordapp.com_channels_236444656005545984_302095531768020992&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=xFhshljkmDrLEVz_LfI9tYNlZRfU0OVkta1zO-qQgPU&s=ybUA-A0VaxXYb_6akixcWPTlFhQoLfn6a1KLMeXZ3kY&e=
2018-05-09 12:27 GMT+02:00 Jordi Bares <[email protected]>: > Same here, every time I move to a new package (Massive, Maya, Houdini, > Modo, etc...) I feel crippled… my approach is to just do it… go for it on a > real life project and with a bit of time and in the end is not that bad. > > But it is true that you will be using Houdini as if it was Maya or > Softimage for a while (thinking in terms of object hierarchies for example) > but after a while you get the trick of the application and how to really > squeeze the most out of it which means do it the Houdini way. Not weird, > just different. > > A good example is.. > > 1) you can choose to import alembic files with the high res geometry in… > > or > > 2) import just a few points (one for each object transformation) and > attach the geometry (dynamically) to those points… > > > The first is direct and very much Softimage-like and “makes sense”. The > second will look unnecessary for a period… but later you will come full > circle and understand that the Houdini way has a lot of benefits, for > example it will update _a lot_ faster, you will be able to update > dynamically the resolution based on camera position, minimise IFD baking, > what to load or not, etc… In the end both ways are going to give you the > pixels you are after but one opens the door to a completely new world (2) > and once you get into it you will be able to scale the projects to a point > you have never been able to with (1). > > Jb > > > On 9 May 2018, at 10:55, Mirko Jankovic <[email protected]> wrote: > > As you mentioned simple starting tutorials I figured as well that one of > the problems with people moving from Softimage to Houdini, probably is > similar to my probem as well. > You go from 10+ years of Softimage thinking oh I have some experience I > mean how hard can it be, dig into Houdini expecting to create same level > complex stuff right away.. and then hitting a wall. But the truth is that > Houdini dies have rather different logic ,a bit bigger turn around and that > should be starting actually from boxes, spheres moving them and then > evolving.. well same way we learned SI or Maya when we started back then. > At least till logic is picked up and automated in muscle memory. > Wondering if anyone else thinks similar or it is just me doing it wrong > way around :) > > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:32 AM David Saber <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks a lot for the answers and testimonials , they'll come in handy. >> >> I still use XSI and more and more Maya. I would have gone at top speed >> with Houdini if there was some jobs but here in France there is absolutely >> NO Houdini jobs. I guess all Houdini jobs are in the UK right? >> >> So in my spare time I'm learning Houdini… just in case. There are many >> things I like with Hou but globally the workflow is a bit alien to me. >> >> I purchased some of Rohan Dalvi's tutorials. The one I'm following now is >> the rocket ship : >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__urldefense.proofpoint&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=xFhshljkmDrLEVz_LfI9tYNlZRfU0OVkta1zO-qQgPU&s=dAOhi8KxBvViQCoA5CQTfJtAkDN1e3jvlTPHSqfF4gQ&e=. >> com/v2/url?u=https-3A__vimeo.com_141986424&d=DwID-g&c=76Q6Tcqc- >> t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVM >> srMw7PFsA&m=wocXfs-0FToIcmkYvAMVju9h5If2iF4hNr38EyHFgsw&s= >> utEfA5UTDe68AgzmsoSAgvZ3jT6MUCUkjyNQ2jQzeg8&e= >> <https://u7507473.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=5SmYwFIJXHmC5X9wAP0G6iB4H67OtDu1LYz6krlc8-2FqBeLCXrELBQVbfMn71cNywwCM9MLKQNt6NvY2bdnUVgiRuzEw0g0OZUwVhB4KIDvkjTtq34l13Jmfjgwg01isCCK511SfOUct9zBCzgDFFRO-2FaVrThr3vNXUM7RiWhBe-2BeNhsuRVYy8WcsXk6VbpXImEfuRQawGiawr4d49P-2FHnLnlELB9OOSGEp8kBIqiFZxa2fSH2uroog4eQsi5i0iGOvAlBanKasL72X371xL3Z1-2FMAUK-2F1-2Bn7d4-2Fi9jwJGmD-2FXB0QlJXgqMM4kstz-2Fm56HjIsU-2BkoNKiHaHAxbA8n7qCi7fJECJ12MiQJpTrx2jfOokaa9g4iNsxXU-2FOo6vuFaiKbOIyzrnK-2FEuyUplHro7tsdKtruNCX1ENmtSBY3GnFmcIqyhdKFvKYIQ5W3hQ6PSScqeX4lano9gIU9CKKU8VOV8wupK2sJyZfIUtd16Brb9TjhNkLi8p5NQRCkr1OGxDtUE3HMTYyHHqKwmnusEiTSey0teU8ITlrky9OJ5x3c9f7tTsm97BNR61JsipFr2rSeDdgmi61R4vXGFMXfJGcYUh8tSB-2FummcoKeO2P-2BTP4EbMW3NDZjlJL2-2BDsY2Q8sL0anaS9zxDIiyac2Fwddapi86C7zkJ23-2F-2F1-2ByObSw2dOU-2BIvUG1-2FEC5vigXpV-2FPoJyQO5P4qhMsLRvkHddfXGYzsfMC36OkW9jfiS52GCMuuy0Q4YX6JI3GjmSlfq0P-2BNRYapUBGputu5ttewzU2VWRDoHb-2BSz-2Bqa-2BxRvxmwWqWNABHhogWmKw8IMlq9-2Bf3c2ztibPJt3-2BAQWgmeK0dF0xv8f0ebwFSrrYypD0eDV6kjHZegmC6mHiBb9mf6NyjZ09FM4ct946Og1RRUaqpS3iV8zT2-2BugqFWHKjHxyvPbWCTTlIcAkazcBqJcDLRq9uLSUwXbuJhnVaQ-2BqhVtUo4EkMRgjaErGtK2wvlMTPvSMtbUMRikh67Hohf-2Bazeep9ES2BXk2YyKgO9bCx0gSOrc2W1A92BCv1hpzLPCqovN-2BSAUqZsa-2F9-2BKDsfFCa1sDNZ5xAbtsfWGyo1uqa8u26YARDqnQY8g9CSc-2F98eQcdEKZcfubzuM2kctcpgT75uv7wjipVJ09x4WTiKHpbnqrdlnv0KsQ7O6ocrhBvsXF2Z-2FzMyW0JfgDkpyyNmdZrtSoU31AYayfWAtkUF96SPl5P741219ADM5JD3YjVYBkkpUs9V1PKVEzNxFqg1ikI4NzRfzQs7vDDqRQHvIxOvhSIknODh8niuxnxCBEhw99RDa-2Bo5P6ARHf5DkjYBXXFGFqCgGdSayElE28R4IhzRSB6tjd6X-2B6O0ebwFXj0Kz7FI5N9DvQriyywKeeioFRajSRMpGSoMi1oUPfs0WKIKaSneqjo0spb90fFh28xu36MU-2BroZsD0gJtiVuXYU-2FM6DltbqeJzjicMc9YFIirW-2FlJtEJtEXOZwGez7vHpImfPOTZC1NToz3HX35Bg0mfxUDEv57vgJjOQ1QDuRIRoVfNMwG-2BBFJbUPdAzT4RBn6lPv9tjbQ6a2AkIJdTEfgTs07ZH8c4XCOzjKeYfQawnKVJEoqFSTCffIvvB68n-2FqpPgO4YuabFiU5Hm0QieK7BFnJh-2FTadIoQymPtltmnZw92IY259Vxlm9ZnWF5VBYxA-2BbeLWtLhOQn20J56Oy3uEr0wWUGxua7Km-2Fw5GRhm9-2FX-2FXpq8gnzzBimk9JhK3e8f6pE1Lxj8-2B-2FN7vMvRgoFnUY3yHxZregR-2BPoOeUyc-2BVmMskJ0EDL-2BKaNIPt08thTx360sHJnpcNLqpOzpkrt1g3fX4FHrVZObG1DRB4wRRgEpRFpatR7Q1GuQFvHaTUyfjk0pjv3R1xFxQxvFdGwRO-2BpArmjDNb4zghEGt38ikdePfak19i99Fr-2BrY6qD3GdOA7NBq-2BmvVUsTszKqPmhleuloCcmZ2jnqDWbFdto-2B5Vfo4MFWEghHNr3Ldxdp7xjkCK0HGXs-2FqpbthMClBNuGcmpg7-2BeNgAJ2V-2FAueHOzyoBdBsoSE5HEst77Y7SMWK5bQt2cYEZXYn3OQbioMsJunaBl78YQSKUPdi7Bodj3bRN8SST4HM1duzt1DtlWXoj2ZLnYNjujL1yGU6-2F7wK79CjCggzPx-2FWGyRtPwbJuAvb-2FMlWi8nZptgVlevUq8ZJ5eiSPHNXYMhOw5QMFQv-2BP9XYsa44tY3py8BuGiRhSY1IMImkeJWZL7huuy5GBWmGwLm09-2FZc4xaHowhpaezmka337S_72czwIl2fCRkdCn-2FNi2SsWoiEyuGcOc7lpZVE4deBSO1WocwjEbQHtb8SAJ3NVf7iL90rroYDEWcY6ECDeRNae4m0uoGEgLfVlhYcuOEecTjwKITrGGmXkzLvTnYiuydnUI7UqQAIlT9-2BvD4r9hi40NtONWIM1Ko7oW7db4PpxwBbRxrloaVJub6XM-2F6PnMvhOG8Wfq527tUc-2BwOGEdxv83e1HbDmZLdDeEk9-2BrXkZI-3D> >> . I enjoy Rohan's videos, but I'm not so found of procedural modelling. To >> create the rocket ship's door, a dozen nodes are needed… All working with >> some kind of curves (carve nodes) to draw the shape of the door, then >> delete nodes to cut out the volume. Like some kind of nurbs boolean >> workflow. Everything is done in the network editor and I don't find this >> workflow funny. So of course the beauty of this kind of work is that you >> can go back to the first node (in a tree so high it's scary) and if you >> modify it, all the subsequent nodes will evolve accordingly. And when the >> ship will be shape-animated everything will follow nicely. But the same >> could be achieved with non procedural modelling , not? >> >> The learning links posted here are all about procedural modelling and >> particles. >> >> I remember when I first learned Softimage 3D, I got on some CD the Chinny >> tutorials where he was modelling a scorpion, then rigging it, then >> animating it. Anyone remembers this? I must have kept this CD somewhere. >> This tut was simple, fun and quick to learn. It taught me where tools where >> and the general logic of the app. I would love to have the same kind of >> tutorial with Houdini: something simple at first, helping you to create and >> animate a character. I don't think modelling a character would rely that >> much on procedural modelling, and in Houdini, traditional modelling tools à >> la XSI are available. (But it seems no Houdini trainer is interested in >> showing them in action. Why not showing these tools? Are they "not complex >> enough"?) Then after the simple stuff, the tutorial would add some more >> complex things. I think it would be much more fun that way. >> >> And I think most 3d artist would enjoy working with a fun to use app >> while keeping its procedural and non linear power. If Houdini could evolve >> towards a better artist friendly mindset (like Soft 3d and XSI) , it could >> make a much needed breakthrough over Maya, Max, C4D, Modo, etc. >> >> Good day, David >> >> ------ Softimage Mailing List. 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