--On Wednesday, August 11, 2004 6:41 PM -0300 Walter Kobylanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This are just other options that we suggest. You can see that the *logo*
has not changed but we wanted to show you that it can be used in very
different ways.

I work as the IT guy in a mechanical group (robotics) so this logo appeals to me in the same way the machined aluminum in the shop does. I particularly like the back/grey/silver shuriken but recognize the desire for integrating Apache's colors. Perhaps an Apache-colored sample integrated with the shading of the 3rd (monochrome) sample would be in order. The result might look like tungsten or bismuth with its metallic rainbow sheen.





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