Thanks for the response Quentin

I'd gained the impression from various documentation that it is possible in
theory to run spamassassin without procmail, but I've been finding both
procmail & spamassassin a considerable struggle due to the sparse
documentation. Appears the
majority of texts assume procmail is installed, however if it is practical
to do without procmail I'd probably go that way in the interest of
simplicity. The 'only' thing I'm trying to achieve is filtering & deleting
junk, the vast majority of which is korean  .Sorting mail into this or that
directory is totally irrelevant.

I'd certainly appreciate any notes you have .... from previous experience
I've come to the conclusion that many lesser experienced users have
infinitely more ability to impart knowledge in a 'usable' form than
developers ... if only because less assumptions are made about the reader's
level of experience. Very very few experts appear capable of comprehending
that some of us simply wish to get a basic setup functioning in a short
space of time & don't have a burning ambition to become another expert in
the next five minutes.

Recent renditions of FreeBSD installers are a vast improvement on past
versions ... makefiles generally work properly these days without changes.
I've had few issues with installing packages and / or ports with the current
4.62 ... its just a matter of configuring things in the absence of simple
english explanations.

> I don't consider myself highly experienced, and can put together my
> newbie notes for getting SA going on Debian Linux if you want them.  [It
> is considerably easier on Debian because one just "apt-get install
> spamassassin", reads the readme files that came with the Debian pack,
> makes a few small tweeks, and you're up and running.
>
> To answer your questions re: procmail
> In leu of using procmail, I am running SA through a sendmail filter ie,
> a milter (from www.milter.org)  If you go there and search (in the upper
> right corner of the home page) on spamassassin, there are several
> references to running spamassassin on BSD.
>
> Regarding finding information on procmail and whether or not you need
> procmail, procmail is an LDA (local delivery agent, and is configurable
> to do many cool things to redirect mail to different users and programs
> such as spamassassin.  If you have procmail installed to your machine,
> man procmailex will provide many fairly comprehendable examples of how
> it is used.
>
> With that said, you need to call spamassassin from somewhere and direct
> mail through it so that the mail can be ranked and tagged if neccary.
> This can be accomplished by declaring procmail as your local delivery
> agent in sendmail and placing a 3 line directive in your procmailrc file
> to push the mail through SA, -or- calling procmail from your sendmail
> .forware or ailas files -or- if you prefer not to use procmail, and are
> using sendmail, you can use a milter.  There is some help at
> www.milter.org regarding using SA with a milter on BSD.  I chose the
> milter because I relay mail for some domains and check it for spam while
> relaying it.  Ie I accept mail on the domain's behalf and forward it to
> the local-delivery mail server at their corporate office; therefore the
> mail is not delivered locally.  Since I am calling SA from a milter and
> not an LDA like procmail, the mail is still ranked by SA and marked as
> spam if needed as it crosses my mail server to the customer's domain.
> [as a note I just had the custome add a higher priority MX record to
> their domain directing traffic to my mail server.  If my server is not
> available, the mail still goes to their existing mail server, it just
> does not get scrubbed by SA]
>
> Quentin Krengel
> Krengel Technology Inc
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Doug
> Young
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 1:28 AM
> To: Quentin Krengel
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SAtalk] dependencies / pre-requisites for installation in
> FreeBSD
>
>
>
> > I empathize with you...
> > Do you have a README in /usr/share/doc/spamassassin?
>
> No I don't  .... thats the very first place I looked
>
> > Have you checked out the doc's here?
> > http://spamassassin.taint.org/doc.html
> >
> And that  is the second place I looked .... no info that I could find
> in answer to my questions. I realize that its normal for open source
> docs to cater for highly experienced users rather than someone
> trying to figure stuff out for the first time  ...EXTREMELY
> frustrating !!!!!
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > Doug Young
> > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:30 PM
> > To: Justin Mason
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] dependencies / pre-requisites for installation
> > in FreeBSD
> >
> >
> > > > Would someone please enlighten me on dependencies / pre-requisites
> > > > for installation in FreeBSD. The 'official' documentation isn't
> > particularly
> > > > explicit about this stuff .... eg 'procmail' is mentioned but
> > > > without
> > saying
> > > > whether or not its essential, & no info provided on whether
> > > > GNUmake
> > > > is required or if standard BSD 'make' is OK.
> > >
> > > I thought we were quite good about it, in the README file!
> > >
> > > procmail is essential *if* you're using (a) SpamAssassin for local
> > > delivery, (b) not using a milter, and (c) not using a Mail::Audit
> > > script instead.  So probably yes.
> > >
> > > BSD make is OK, if Perl generally uses it to build Perl modules.
> > > SpamAssassin is just anotehr Perl module in that respect.
> > >
> > Back to this stuff again  ..... searched high & low but definitely
> > nothing on this system even vaguely resembling a README file for
> > spamassassin. I have procmail installed but having major problems
> > comprehending the setup .... would appreciate info on any 'simple
> > english' HOWTo
> >
> >
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