Hey Doug: I forwarded the spamass-milter tarball to you, and my notes for installing on Debian in a separate email. The debian notes won't do much for you if you stick with BSD, as the debian packages take most of the work out of it for you.
A few points of clarification for you: I am not using procmail (I'm using the milter), so yes you can run SA without procmail. After you get spamassassin installed, take a look at the man page 'man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf' for directions on filtering that foreign email out, although you may not have to even bother, as untweeked SA Should catch it. Quentin Krengel Krengel Technology Inc -----Original Message----- From: Doug Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 8:49 PM To: Quentin Krengel Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] dependencies / pre-requisites for installation in FreeBSD Thanks for the response Quentin I'd gained the impression from various documentation that it is possible in theory to run spamassassin without procmail, but I've been finding both procmail & spamassassin a considerable struggle due to the sparse documentation. Appears the majority of texts assume procmail is installed, however if it is practical to do without procmail I'd probably go that way in the interest of simplicity. The 'only' thing I'm trying to achieve is filtering & deleting junk, the vast majority of which is korean .Sorting mail into this or that directory is totally irrelevant. I'd certainly appreciate any notes you have .... from previous experience I've come to the conclusion that many lesser experienced users have infinitely more ability to impart knowledge in a 'usable' form than developers ... if only because less assumptions are made about the reader's level of experience. Very very few experts appear capable of comprehending that some of us simply wish to get a basic setup functioning in a short space of time & don't have a burning ambition to become another expert in the next five minutes. Recent renditions of FreeBSD installers are a vast improvement on past versions ... makefiles generally work properly these days without changes. I've had few issues with installing packages and / or ports with the current 4.62 ... its just a matter of configuring things in the absence of simple english explanations. > I don't consider myself highly experienced, and can put together my > newbie notes for getting SA going on Debian Linux if you want them. > [It is considerably easier on Debian because one just "apt-get install > spamassassin", reads the readme files that came with the Debian pack, > makes a few small tweeks, and you're up and running. > > To answer your questions re: procmail > In leu of using procmail, I am running SA through a sendmail filter > ie, a milter (from www.milter.org) If you go there and search (in the > upper right corner of the home page) on spamassassin, there are > several references to running spamassassin on BSD. > > Regarding finding information on procmail and whether or not you need > procmail, procmail is an LDA (local delivery agent, and is > configurable to do many cool things to redirect mail to different > users and programs such as spamassassin. If you have procmail > installed to your machine, man procmailex will provide many fairly > comprehendable examples of how it is used. > > With that said, you need to call spamassassin from somewhere and > direct mail through it so that the mail can be ranked and tagged if > neccary. This can be accomplished by declaring procmail as your local > delivery agent in sendmail and placing a 3 line directive in your > procmailrc file to push the mail through SA, -or- calling procmail > from your sendmail .forware or ailas files -or- if you prefer not to > use procmail, and are using sendmail, you can use a milter. There is > some help at www.milter.org regarding using SA with a milter on BSD. > I chose the milter because I relay mail for some domains and check it > for spam while relaying it. Ie I accept mail on the domain's behalf > and forward it to the local-delivery mail server at their corporate > office; therefore the mail is not delivered locally. Since I am > calling SA from a milter and not an LDA like procmail, the mail is > still ranked by SA and marked as spam if needed as it crosses my mail > server to the customer's domain. [as a note I just had the custome add > a higher priority MX record to their domain directing traffic to my > mail server. If my server is not available, the mail still goes to > their existing mail server, it just does not get scrubbed by SA] > > Quentin Krengel > Krengel Technology Inc > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Doug Young > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 1:28 AM > To: Quentin Krengel > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] dependencies / pre-requisites for installation > in FreeBSD > > > > > I empathize with you... > > Do you have a README in /usr/share/doc/spamassassin? > > No I don't .... thats the very first place I looked > > > Have you checked out the doc's here? > > http://spamassassin.taint.org/doc.html > > > And that is the second place I looked .... no info that I could find > in answer to my questions. I realize that its normal for open source > docs to cater for highly experienced users rather than someone trying > to figure stuff out for the first time ...EXTREMELY frustrating !!!!! > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > > Doug Young > > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:30 PM > > To: Justin Mason > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] dependencies / pre-requisites for installation > > in FreeBSD > > > > > > > > Would someone please enlighten me on dependencies / > > > > pre-requisites for installation in FreeBSD. The 'official' > > > > documentation isn't > > particularly > > > > explicit about this stuff .... eg 'procmail' is mentioned but > > > > without > > saying > > > > whether or not its essential, & no info provided on whether > > > > GNUmake is required or if standard BSD 'make' is OK. > > > > > > I thought we were quite good about it, in the README file! > > > > > > procmail is essential *if* you're using (a) SpamAssassin for local > > > delivery, (b) not using a milter, and (c) not using a Mail::Audit > > > script instead. So probably yes. > > > > > > BSD make is OK, if Perl generally uses it to build Perl modules. > > > SpamAssassin is just anotehr Perl module in that respect. > > > > > Back to this stuff again ..... searched high & low but definitely > > nothing on this system even vaguely resembling a README file for > > spamassassin. I have procmail installed but having major problems > > comprehending the setup .... would appreciate info on any 'simple > > english' HOWTo > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > _______________________________________________ > > Spamassassin-talk mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
