In my dealings with FM Global, their Approval Guide does list manufacturers who have a less hazardous type of hydraulic fluid, which has a higher flash point than normal hydraulic fluids. FM indicates that these too will burn under certain conditions, but the fire risk has been reduced to an acceptable degree.
Loren Johnson - CFPS, CET Fire Protection Systems Consultant The Hitchcock Company Peoria, IL --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I had been told by one elevator inspector that there > was an FM approved > hydraulic media that was non-combustible and if that > was being used the > sprinkler in the pit could be deleted. > > On the other hand in another jurisdiction I was told > that regardless of > the hydraulic media used that we were to provide a > sprinkler in the pit > due to the possible accumulation of miscellaneous > debris which could > catch fire. > > > Isn't it wonderful to be in an industry where > everything is so black and > white? ;) > > > > Craig L. Prahl, CET > Fire Protection Group > Mechanical Department > CH2MHILL > Lockwood Greene > 1500 International Drive > PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 > Direct - 864.599.4102 > Fax - 864.599.8439 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.lg.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of George > Church > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:41 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: hydraulic elevators > > Perhaps everyone else in the area installs to #13R ? > Perhaps a call to the local AHJ(s) would clear up > whether you're the > only one doing it correctly, in which case maybe > your competitors will > be a little dismayed to find themselves going back > and retrofitting > their bottoms. The call to the AHJ(s) could be > two-fold: ask them if > they believe it should be required; and ask WHY it > is not- you may find > in the near future you're no longer alone in the > shaft. > > George Church > Rowe Sprinkler > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of David de > Vries/Firetech > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:30 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: hydraulic elevators > > Pat on the back to the only contractor in the area > complying with this > provision of 13. > > -- > David de Vries, P.E., CSP > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Greg McGahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > We are receiving mixed reviews from AHJ's > regarding this issue: Are > > sprinklers required in the bottom of hydraulic > elevator shafts? > > > > I know what the code says but we have never been > able to document that > > > ANY > > > hydraulic elev fluid is non-combustible by > definition. I was informed > > this > > > morning that we are the only contractor in the > area putting sprinklers > > > in the bottom of these shafts. > > > > Thanks, > > Greg McGahan > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
