Most jurisdictions that I have worked in do not want the 1 1/2" hose installed, 
and the building codes (IBC) do not require hoses. I was wondering why this is 
a class III standpipe to begin with.  

Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer


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Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:10 PM
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If providing 1½" reducers it is assumed that 1½" hoses be provided. Most FD
do not use 1½" hoses to fight fires, they are for clean-up and untrained
persons. If there aren't any hoses then why provide the 1½" reducers?

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Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 2:02 PM
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One thing that does not make sense....where are these untrained people going
to get 1 1/2" hose?  

Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer

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Goins
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:00 PM
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Subject: RE: NFPA #14 and pressures

Must meet both criteria. The 1½" hose station is available for untrained
persons thus the pressure limit.

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Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:11 PM
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Subject: NFPA #14 and pressures


NFPA #14 states that when the static pressure at a hose connection exceeds
175 psi, a pressure regulating device shall be provided to limit the
pressure to 100 psi for 1 ½" hose connections and to 175 psi for all other
hose connections.

 

What if the standpipe is a Class III utilizing the fully sprinklered
building exception allowing 2 ½" hose valves with 1 ½" reducers, caps and
chains?

 

Does the pressure need to be limited to 100 psi or 175 psi?

 

 

Dave

 

 

David K. Thompson

Vice President

Allstate Fire Sprinkler, Inc.

P.O. Box 2350

Hartford, CT  06146

Phone = 860-246-7711

Fax = 860-246-7707

 

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