That works for the most part, especially when there is a new shiny fire pump involved. I remember doing the flush on one for the others to protect said pump, even helping with the certificate. Over the weekend a valve was installed by others, that was forgotten in the initial lay, with no notification I might add. Pump start up, shiny new impeller gets beat to crap by rocks.... Your paperwork says you flushed......
R/ Matt ----- >-----Original Message----- ----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On ----- >Behalf Of George Church ----- >Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:13 AM ----- >To: [email protected] ----- >Subject: RE: What does not fully functional mean? ----- > ----- >We have a test rig made up, grooved end pipe with FHV's ----- >attached, ez to hook up to floor flange. Run hoses out, ----- >attach Monsters, flush, flip pitot, record flow, note on ----- >U Certif. Only takes an hour, maybe 2 if you count ----- >load/unload time. ----- > ----- >If we have doubts as to whether flushing was done, we ----- >just go ahead and flush again. Far less time and ----- >frustration than trying to educate the unwashed. We then ----- >attach a U certif. noting we flushed the UG, did not ----- >install, and make no claim as to materials or plan ----- >apvls. We do this solely for reducing our liability ----- >exposure, we could care less if it passes a hydro, it's ----- >the crap in the pipe blocking a head we worry about. ----- > ----- >I'd say we get paid to flush and test the UG on about 5 ----- >or 10% of our jobs. ----- >For regular customers, cost. For others, depends on the ----- >mood and how my week has gone. Gotta pay for the 6 ----- >monsters and gauge maintenance ! ----- > ----- >I thought about sending the link to NFPA Code For Free ----- >on #24, to site guys, but realized they'd need an ----- >internet connection to be able to use it. (sigh) ----- > ----- >For the most part, inspectors in PA are ignorant of the ----- >requirements. I'm still amazed that Schirmer rep allowed ----- >flushing thru one 1.5" hose for 14" ----- >UG, how can we bitch about the jack of all trades local ----- >guy when those that know better accept that crap? ----- > ----- >glc ----- > ----- >-----Original Message----- ----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On ----- >Behalf Of Matthew J. ----- >Willis ----- >Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:37 AM ----- >To: [email protected] ----- >Subject: RE: What does not fully functional mean? ----- > ----- >That's the one. As I said the last time we discussed ----- >this, I tell them to look in the book they used to ----- >install the pipe by. (24) Our work is for the GC. Let ----- >them know you cannot connect until you have this and ----- >STICK to your guns. If they request a copy for their ----- >use, and you wish to provide it, hand deliver it. (If ----- >you fax it, your name and fax number must appear on said ----- >fax) Even if I Know it isn't correct, I have my REQUIRED ----- >documentation, of which I make multiple copies. There is ----- >a reason civil contractors do underground for 50% of our ----- >price. This is a nice step in showing why. ----- > ----- >R/ ----- > ----- >Matt ----- > ----- > ----- > ----- >_______________________________________________ ----- >Sprinklerforum mailing list ----- >[email protected] ----- >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum ----- > ----- >To Unsubscribe, send an email ----- >to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
