I think you should arbitrarily add a pump and space the sprinklers at 100 sf too. As you say, it's for the government and everybody knows that if one or two is good then 8 or 10 MUST be better.
Steve Leyton PROTECTION DESIGN & CONSULTING -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fletcher, Ron Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 2:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Corps of Engineers Grv'd Cplg Spec Thanks George. I think that is what we will do. More time and money wasted by our government. Ron Fletcher -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Church Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 2:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Corps of Engineers Grv'd Cplg Spec Ron- If it helps, the word panel is SINGULAR, and does not necessarily require one panel for each joint. Just that A PANEL be shown on the drawings (marked "by others", if I were you) somewhere so that an access to that space where the grooved couplings are installed. Obviously it could be impractical that someone could squeeze thru and get to ALL couplings, but its also impractical that we could actually fit spkr pipe in the "negative clearance" already existing in the space where the 12" duct sits in a 10" space. So I'd show one PANEL and assume their maintenance guy is as snake-like as the contractor that thinks you're going to install accessss panels for him. glc -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fletcher, Ron Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 4:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Corps of Engineers Grv'd Cplg Spec "US Corps of Engineers Albuquerque District Specifications for Bureau of Indian Affairs Kayenta Community School Replacement Navajo County, Arizona" Section 13930A.3.4.7 Pipe Joints: After referencing dial calipers, go/no-go gauges, narrow-land micrometer, NFPA #13 and various other filler material the make grooving of pipe sound difficult the section finishes like this. "Grooved joints shall not be used in concealed locations such as behind walls or ceilings, unless an access panel is shown on the drawings for servicing or adjusting the joint." The RCP's do not show any access panels in the hard lids. I guess we could show the panels on our drawings but then we would probably have to provide them. Thanks for your help. Ron Fletcher Aero Automatic Phoenix, AZ -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Corps of Engineers Grv'd Cplg Spec Ron: Which Gov. spec are you referring to? Thom McMahon Firetech, Inc. 2560 Copper Ridge Dr Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136 Tel: 970-879-7952 Fax: 970-879-7926 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fletcher, Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 1:17 PM Subject: Corps of Engineers Grv'd Cplg Spec Anyone out there had any luck getting relief from a COE spec requiring an access panel at every grooved coupling located in concealed locations above hard lids or in walls? Ron Fletcher Aero Automatic Phoenix, AZ _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
