Hi
There are no restrictions in NFPA 13 for Standard Spray Sprinklers.  The
ceiling limitations are for storage sprinklers like ESFR.  The old NFPA
101 Life Safety used to allow you to eliminate sprinklers in atriums
above 55 feet in height. There have been times when this has been
questions in the NFPA meetings but to my knowledge there have been no
new requirements added in NFPA 13.

Michael L Brown
The Reliable Automatic Sprinkler Company, Inc.

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Subject: RE: Max Ceiling Heights

Craig,
Thanks for the input, the manufacturer just called me back and said they
have no limitations on the heads I'm using, I had him send me that in an
email which I will forward to the AHJ. 


Brian Harris
FDFP INC.

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Certain types of sprinklers have specific limitations and they are
usually
listed as such, typically those designated for storage occupancies.
Most
Control Mode sprinklers don't list any restrictions and so far I haven't
been able to find anything in NFPA stating an NFPA imposed restriction.
NFPA defers to the mfgr data for installation issues.

Dealt with this issue ad naseum on a 100ft high structure.   I contacted
one of the Sprinkler mfgrs and they were very helpful in explaining that
in
my case even at 100ft the sprinklers will operate.  The fire does have
to be
large enough to bring the ceiling temps up to the release temps of the
heads
and that could take a little longer than in a 20-30ft high bldg and
might
trigger more heads.  

If the AHJ is being persistent, ask the mfgr to write a letter
explaining
the operation of the heads at the higher elevation will occur and
whatever
other blah, blah blah words they need.  

Just something to satisfy the AHJ.


Craig L. Prahl, CET
Fire Protection Group
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
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http://www.lg.com


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Harris
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:43 AM
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Subject: Max Ceiling Heights

Forum,
I just got back some comments from the local AHJ on a project we are
doing
and he's asking me to verify that the heads we are using are rated for
ceilings over 30'. I've spoke with the manufacturer and he said he
doesn't
have anything on min./max. ceiling heights. If memory serves me isn't
50'
somewhere in NFPA? Any help would be appreciated.
 

Regards,

  <http://www.firstdefensefire.com/> 

 

 
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