The last scenario that we did (which effectively killed any further evaluation) was 4 floating clouds with a 1 ft gap and the fire at the intersection of the four clouds. It wasn't pretty. SO how much room you have to discuss depends on the number of clouds or rather intersecting gaps within the room.

I have placed back on the To Do list to look at smaller openings with many clouds, just two clouds, and the perimeter. We've done some preliminary work with the perimeter only but need a more detailed evaluation to take it to the technical committee.

Roland

On Aug 5, 2008, at 8:38 AM, Rick Green wrote:

NFPA 13 2002 Edition - Section 8.14.1.2.2 - "Noncombustible and limited combustible concealed spaces with limited access and not permitting occupancy or storage or combustibles shall not require sprinkler protection. The space shall be considered a concealed space even with small openings such as those used as return air for a plenum".

Maybe I did not describe correctly the ceiling construction. The ceiling will be installed throughout the space(s) at the same elevation. The "openings" are 7" gaps along the perimeter walls or between sections of the ceiling within the room. This only occurs in a few of the spaces/rooms and those rooms are separated by full height wall from other spaces.

I believe the section above may adequately address this issue to the point I can meet with AHJ concerning sprinkler protection above the ceiling space.





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