We have the LIABILITY no matter what or who say's OK. But Liability is like Peanut Butter, the more you spread it, the more it sticks to someone else.
As far as any definition of what a cloud ceiling is or isn't, I would like to propose that the committee refine a definition for chapter 3.7. I.E. "A cloud ceiling is any ceiling where more than 50% of the perimeter is not touching a wall, or the gap at the wall exceeds 2 inches." Or an alternate "A cantilever ceiling is one where more than 50% of the ceiling extends to the wall, and the remainder has a gap of less than 2 inches" Thom McMahon, SET Firetech, Inc. 2560 Copper Ridge Dr P.O. Box 882136 Steamboat Springs, CO 80488 Tel: 970-879-7952 Fax: 970-879-7926 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Church Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Floating Ceilings You're absolutely right, Jeff- IF the PE is competent. <see previous threads kicking this to death> He does have FPE(s?) on staff available glc -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Hewitt Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 12:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Floating Ceilings I have been watching this thread with interest, and finally have to ask (and yes, I am sure this will stir the pot as well).... This particular issue is one which requires more than just mundane interpretation of the NFPA 13 standard. Who should be doing the interpreting??? NICET technicians, or PE"s, or ??? My gut feeling here is that if you choose to support the more liberal interpretation, that this will NOT require both above and below protection, especially without any significant test data to back it up at this point, that this is not the place for a NICET technician to make this decision, or for that matter to try to "sell" it to the local AHJ. Do you really want that liability? Not to mention whether you are exceeding your "authority" under NICET rules for practicing engineering? Jeff Hewitt, PE, SET, SFPE (Professional Member) Corporate Engineer Bi-State Fire Protection Corporation 241 Hughes Lane St. Charles, MO 63301 636-946-0011 636-946-5172 (FAX) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1592 - Release Date: 8/5/2008 6:03 AM _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
