Sorry John, as a law enforcement official you are obligated to show me it's
wrong. I have no obligation to prove I'm right in any legal context (well
except maybe with the IRS). Burden of proof is on the gov't. And in MN an
AHJ has to point out the deficiency in writing and give a reasonable time to
comply before the gov't (AHJ) can take any legal action.
Chris Cahill, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.
763-658-4483
763-658-4921 fax
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mail: P.O. Box 69
Waverly, MN 55390
Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW
Waverly, MN 55390
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Drucker
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 10:52 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: 13 system in SFR
Thom,
Real simple, I'm from Missouri, If you can show me it in the code then
you can do it.
As for money, agree 100% not the pervue of a municipal AHJ, and frankly
we are best left out of it which is why we just want to know how much
equipment for permitting purposes and not what it cost.
John Drucker
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thom
McMahon
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: 13 system in SFR
George:
Just so you know where it came from the McMansion's are now being
replaced by the "McRanchion's" (Yes my own word, soon to be added to all
e-space word searches.)Buy a few hundred Ac. Hire a ranch manager, build
him a 1800Sf house, then build your 12,000 Sf part time residence, barn
and riding arena and claim "Ag" as your property tax bracket.
Of course if they need the tax break from Ag, they surly can't afford
anything more than the minimum 13D? Well who say's they need more than
13D?
Life Safety is the goal, and we all deserve equal access to that. So if
you have a McRanchion or a Tract Ranch house, both deserve the 13D
protection of a life safety system. For those that CAN afford more and
want to pay for it OK! But it should not be the AHJ that decides who can
and can't afford more.
It's that same old thing one AHJ we deal with allows 13D unabridged for
up to 5000Sf, a 13D 3three head design over 5000Sf, and a 13D 4 head
design @ 0.10 for any size home with a ceiling pitch over 8/12. (I don't
make these up, I just have to follow them.)
Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel: 970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George
Church
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: 13 system in SFR
"Nothing prevents an owner from increasing the level of protection
commiserate with the level of investment in a McMansion."
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