That explains a lot about the composition of fire-rated glazing.   I don't know 
what the treatment is that's applied to "Fire-Lite" or other rated glass but 
the knock on those products is that they are exorbitantly expensive.   It's not 
as if you can order up pieces of it - you have to purchase the entire assembly, 
including and especially the frame.   If you've ever seen this stuff up close, 
especially if you've seen a section cut at  trade show, the frames are not only 
really over-built compared to conventional windows, but instead of simple 
gaskets or weather seals there is a bead of fire caulk around the glazing on 
both sides.   The frame and sealant are where the bid money goes, along with 
the costs of testing and listing of course.   

Steve Leyton
Protection Design & Consulting
San Diego, CA


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Subject: Window Sprinklers


We were told in some threads to throw away logic
and do what the Code prescribes.  And that covers
our ifs, ands or butts.  But the truth is, there still is
the remote (and assumable) chance that in an unsprinklered
building where we use the window sprinkler to assist
us in achieving a wall rating... e.g. in the case of a 2 story
wall uninterrupted by a floor that has glass comprising only the
bottom story... there is a real possibility that the
window sprinkler system will not prevent window
breakage from a fire.

Then the next question is, for the engineer or architect
at least,  so what if the wall breaks?
It is a big what if,  if the fire exposes a nursery school, or retirement
home, or similar life safety challenge, but in many occupancies,
everyone of reasonable mobility abilities will still exit safely.
Property protection is another mention.


scot deal
excelsior fire protection
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