Thank you, George.  Thanks, Ron.

Ed

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> Subject: RE: Storage tank fill line
> 
> Ed-
> I'd agree that the choice is yours in #22.
> 
> I don't have time to jump into #20, but it could be the auto part is
> required is you're counting on a smaller than minimum design capacity
> tank
> and the refill is counted as part of the duration- since obviously that
> would have to be an auto fill.
> 
> This isn't an opinion of the NFPA #22 Committee, just that of the
> writer.
> 
> George Church
> Rowe Sprinkler
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Kramer
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:28 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Storage tank fill line
> 
> Is an underground storage tank (designed per NFPA 22) required to have
> an
> automatic fill line (as opposed to a manual fill line)?  In this case,
> the
> tank supplies a vertical turbine fire pump that supplies a sprinkler
> system.
> 
> 
> 
> Section 5.6.4.1 of NFPA 20 (07) says "A stored supply plus reliable
> automatic refill shall be sufficient to meet the demand placed upon it
> for
> the design duration."  OK, but I'm not finding anything that says the
> refill
> is required to be automatic.
> 
> 
> 
> Jump to NFPA 22 (03).  Section 13.4 addresses filling of the tank.
> Section
> 13.4.6 addresses filling of suction tanks and talks about where an
> automatic
> fill line must connect to the tank, but doesn't say an automatic fill is
> required.  Section 13.4.1.4 says the control valve on a bypass loop used
> to
> fill a tank shall be kept closed except when the tank is being filled.
> Sounds manual to me.
> 
> 
> 
> So all this leads me to believe the fill line is allowed to be manual or
> automatic (designer's choice).   Or am I missing something?
> 
> 
> 
> Ed Kramer
> 
> Littleton, CO
> 
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