In older buildings built prior to late 1980's or early 1990's, the
drains that Steve mentions were not required in the stairways near the
pressure reducing hose valves (PRV).

Depending upon the type of PRV installed, you'll have the following
options.

1. remove and bench-test each PRV.
2. run hose with the metering device from the PRV up or down the stairs
to a suitable drain.
3. run hose from the PRV into the other stairway and use the other
standpipe as the drain. In this situtation, you might have to remove the
some fo the PRV hose valves because they may also act as check valves.
4. with the approval of the AHJ, you might put a put a cap gauge with a
small outlet and flow a small amount of water into a bucket. This would
allow the seat of the PRV to open and also allow you to read the outlet
pressure.

The choice is up to the AHJ and the building owner because running hose
thru the building at high pressure could cause extensive damage if the
hose leaks.

Also, it really depends on the make and model of the PRV installed...or
are they pressure "restricting" devices instead of pressure "reducing"
devices?

Can you provide the make and model of the valves?
rick matsuda
city of dallas

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Leyton
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 11:50 AM
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Subject: RE: How do you test a pressure reducing valve on a standpipe?

What are they supposed to be set for?   Would seem to me that you would
flow test them and verify that the residual at the required flow rate is
in accordance with the approved design.

The way we test/set these things around here is with a jig that has a
2.5" piece of rubber hose with an in-line flow meter and pressure gauge.
If the standpipe is fitted with pressure gauges on the supply side of
the reducing valves (as it's supposed to be, you can compare the supply
and discharge pressures to be sure the valve is still performing to its
setting or restrictor.   There is SUPPOSED to be a large enough drain
riser in proximity, with connections on each floor - pipe or hose
threaded or grooved per the local AHJ - into which you tie the hose.   

Open each valve and let 'er rip ... but keep a body downstairs at the
pump room with a two way.   And call Tom Duross at FGOL Fire Protection
Services if he doesn't chime in on his own.


Steve Leyton
Protection Design & Consulting
San Diego, CA


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Small
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 9:25 AM
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Subject: RE: How do you test a pressure reducing valve on a standpipe?

Forum members,
I need some help a salesman sold a job where we have to do the 5 year
test
of 73 pressure reducing valves installed in a standpipe?  How do you
test
them and what do you test them for?
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