George, It was probably designed and built by a civil engineer who got his FPE and based on the 1918 NFPA 13 pamphlet, you know the one that is still referenced in the exam. ;)
note: No FPE holding civil engineers were meant to be harmed during the course of the previous comment. Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Specialist Mechanical Department CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 [email protected] http://www.ch2m.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Church Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: 13R Storage Room in exterior balcony Speaking of systems in/around places you'd think they'd do a better job with, The Washington Engineering Center in Alexandria, home of the NSPE and NICET, has a partial system and its almost comical to imagine what they were trying to effect with it. Guess they need a visit from the SFPE. I sent a friend of mine at NFPA a couple FDC caps for installation beside their front entry after my last trip up there. NonProfit and all that, not sure if he installed one or not, it was meant as a joke but I certainly hoped he'd take care of the maintenance item. glc -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Duross Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 8:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: 13R Storage Room in exterior balcony There was a mid-rise apartment project 3 blocks east of NFPA headquarters in Quincy that had exterior mechanical rooms with doors off the balconies and they had a mechanical room fire about 5 years ago. It was bad, engulfed three levels and spread across the balconies. Code at the time didn't require them but I was told afterwards they were installed. If they're not required maybe you might want to offer it as an option. Just a thought. Tom Duross FGOL 6.9.7 Sprinklers shall not be required in closets on exterior balconies, regardless of size, as long as there are no doors or unprotected penetrations from the closet directly into the dwelling unit. Thom McMahon, SET I don't have the 13R 2007. I have the 07 handbook, which doesn't include 13D & 13R unlike previous editions. Does 13R 2007, say anything different? 2007 is not the governing code, but I'd certainly like to know the intent. Tony _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
