I'll give you the "rest of the story". One of our designers missed the 
requirement that in 13 you need to sprinkler the closets.  He made the mistake 
that a lot make and missed the "hotels and motels" part of the standard.  So 
everything is piped, the fire marshal approved the plans without the 
sprinklers, but rejected it (as he should) when it came to final inspection.  
What we are doing is changing the sprinklers in the closet to 4.2 K and 
everything works with a 9 psi safety factor.  This is the best part of forum.  
I had not even thought about changing the closet sprinklers until Ken H of Rowe 
Sprinkler contacted me by email with the suggestion.  I funny how when you get 
crunched, you sometimes miss the obvious solutions.  That's the great part of 
talking and meeting the people on the forum.

 Jay Stough




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From: Ed Kramer <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 11:38:10 AM
Subject: RE: Room Design

Jay, I think you're stuck with including the closet sprinks in your calcs -
it would be odd for a residential closet to have self-closing doors.  Any
idea why the architect wants QR sprinks?

Ed Kramer
Littleton, CO

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:sprinklerforum-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Jay Stough
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:20 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Room Design
> 
> We have an architect that wants to use QR sprinklers, not residential in
> a facility.  It is independent living, not extended care.  some rooms
> have 3 closets, all less than 24 sq.ft.  There are 4 sprinklers
> throughout the living and bath area.  Including the closets, the total
> area may be 600 sq.ft.  I am wondering if there is any way not to
> include all 3 closet sprinklers in the remote area.  I thought I might
> not have to looking at 11.2.3.3.5 (2) (2007 edition) since they might
> qualify as communicating spaces with protection, but after rereading
> don't think so.  Any ideas.
> 
>  Jay Stough

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