Calling the manufacturer (in our case, in Turkey is the local
representative) is definitely one of the items.
However mfr is just one part of the issue. There might be several other
factors. We are in an independent (consultant) position, to be equal to all
the parties. In fact, that was the reason I asked for a generally applicable
flow diagram-check list-etc.
Meantime, I am surprised that industry has not developped a common database
for acc. spr discharge, since water damage is the counter argument for an
investor, not to install spr's, unless the codes urge for sprinklers.
Rgds.
Aydin
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Church
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 2:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Cause Analysis of Accidental Discharge of Fire Sprinklers
Mfr support isn't quite as smooth for Aydin as for us, Jay- he's in Turkey,
with local support being a bit spotty. But Jay is right, the mfr should want
to know why it let loose, and I'd be surprised if the Owner's insurance
carrier (or the installing contractor's carrier) isn't looking to subrogate
some water damage claim. I'd imagine that sort of "trickle-down economics'
is universal; ACE, AON, AXA, etc.- all the acronyms want someone else to pay
for it no matter where you are.
Probably swarf- that's as universal as Murphy, I suppose.
glc
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jay Stough
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 6:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Cause Analysis of Accidental Discharge of Fire Sprinklers
We had one go off about a couple of years ago. I think it was the Grinnell
version of Central's K25. I don't remember much about it, only that after
we called the manufacturer, they had a site visit the next day and within a
couple of days they were out there and replaced all the sprinklers. Call
the manufacturer, they will definitely help find the cause. I have found
that they want to find the cause as much if not more than us contractors,
and for the most part will fix their mistakes quickly.
Jay Stough
________________________________
From: Aydın ÖZKAYA <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 12:19:38 AM
Subject: Cause Analysis of Accidental Discharge of Fire Sprinklers
We are reported an accidental discharge of ESFR in a roll paper warehouse.
I have two questions:
Q1 : Apart from the technical papers, does any one has a,
- flow chart
- check list
for a systematic and analytical analysis of (root) cause(s)?
Q2 : Is there a database where I can both report to and check whether there
is a similar previous record or not?
I'll appreciate any such experience...
Rgds.
Aydin OZKAYA
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