And it may not be a gravity system, don't know where you are but we run into
jobs located down the hill from a building we did and find less, not more
pressure due to a PRV waterco has installed.

Then there's pumping stations, so barring a system that's straight tank(s)
and gravity, anything can happen.

A little friendly banter about wht they have with t heir distribution
foreman can quickly bring an AHA! experience. I was puzzled by a 120 static,
70 at 353 gpm report I got with 12" mains off 16" mains- till I asked about
4 or 5 questions, then observed there had to be 10 miles between tank and
test to get that much drop, and he said no- it's 1,353 gpm. Oh! Yea, that
makes sense....duh. 

glc


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fletcher, Ron
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Hydrant Flow test results

If it's a municipal water supply the two graphs will probably not be the
same. The graph isn't from a zero flow to the 2.5" flow and then the
4.5" flow. If there was 2,000 gpm domestic flow at the time of the test
the graph is actually from 2,000 to 2,000 plus the 2.5" flow or 2,000
plus the 4.5"flow. The N1.85 graph we use doesn't take the domestic
demand into account.

Ron Fletcher
Aero Automatic Sprinkler
21605 N. Central Ave
Phoenix, AZ 85024
P: 623.580.7836
F: 623.434.3420
C: 602.763.4160
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul
Pinigis
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Hydrant Flow test results

Any single-hydrant test is questionable to begin with, but if two tests
are done they should yield identical graphs.  Pitot pressures of less
than 10 psi are generally unacceptable.  

Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety Department Head




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard
Lindner
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:25 PM
To: sprinklerforum
Subject: Hydrant Flow test results

Have a question regarding hydrant flow tests.

We have received a report where the contractor flow a single 2 1/2"
outlet
and gave us static, residual, pitot and calculated flow.  He then
performed
another test using the 4 1/2" outlet on the hydrant, again giving us
values.

Plotting the graph, is there supposed to be a correlation between the
testing of the 2 1/2" versus the 4 1/2" or are they supposed to be used
separately.  For example, when graphing the 2 1/2" outlet, the 4 1/2"
outlet
info should be hitting this line or not??

Also, is a pitot reading of a range of 4 to say 8 on a 4 1/2" outlet
valid
data?

We're not sure how to use this info.

Richard
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