What George and Steve said!

 If this GC has allowed the duct guys to have there way knowing the
coordination requirements in the contract documents,he is not YOUR
friend nor will he help you in any way.Sounds like you are on your own.

 As the cows sometimes say,sometimes you step in it.....sometimes you don't.


 
---- Steve Leyton <[email protected]> wrote: 
> First in wins, eh?   If anyone asks why you're running there, be sure to
> tell 'em, "Calc's".    That stops everything dead in its tracks.
> 
> Seriously, the fastest way to get their attention will be to yell "MORE
> MONEY!!"    It's like yelling "Snake!" at a girl scout camp.
> 
> Right George?
> 
> Steve Leyton
> Protection Design & Consulting
> San Diego, CA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George
> Church
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:03 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Renegade HVAC Contractor
> 
> You could consider just throwing up a couple lengths of pipe alongside
> the
> big openings on their trunk duct, amking sure you're the size of the
> opening
> + 6" away from it so you've accommodated the offsets they'd need to get
> around you. Start with the openings just outside the meeting room.
> 
> A couple lengths under roof top openings should give them a clue that
> you're
> serious. In one day you should be able to hang a couple lengths in front
> of
> several of these, no outlets required, helps you make your point.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fletcher,
> Ron
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:21 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Renegade HVAC Contractor
> 
> At least you are not spending money and time on BIM while all the other
> trades are doing installation. Remember the sprinkler creed "install
> high install first".
> 
> Ron Fletcher
> Aero Automatic
> Phoenix
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian
> Harris
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:02 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Renegade HVAC Contractor
> 
> I could use a little ammo for an upcoming coordination meeting I have on
> Monday. We are working on a pretty big school and the HVAC sub (per the
> spec) is suppose to be spearheading a set of coordination drawings that
> all subs need to agree on and then sigh off on before "any work can be
> fabricated or installed". These drawings still have not been completed
> and are actually not even close to being done.
>  
> Here's where it gets good:
> 
> *     He has already begun installing his duct and has actually
> completed
> a couple wings. (without the approved coordination drawings)
> *     He wants to run all his ductwork 8" above ceiling throughout and
> says sprinkler pipe needs to run above him, "that's industry standard"
> !!
> *     He says he's never heard of ductwork being run through the
> joist,
> it's always the sprinkler lines that run up high. (this is in areas with
> ceiling tiles)
> 
> I could go on and on but I think you get the point, what I would love to
> have is some hard facts/references that I can provide at the meeting so
> this doesn't turn into a bigger pissing contest than it already has. I
> don't dare release our pipe for fab without the drawings being signed
> off but in the mean time he is installing away!
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
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