I thought that was, "Sometimes they step in yours, sometimes you step in theirs, and sometimes you step in your own."
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:24 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > What George and Steve said! > > If this GC has allowed the duct guys to have there way knowing the > coordination requirements in the contract documents,he is not YOUR > friend nor will he help you in any way.Sounds like you are on your own. > > As the cows sometimes say,sometimes you step in it.....sometimes you don't. > > > > ---- Steve Leyton <[email protected]> wrote: >> First in wins, eh? If anyone asks why you're running there, be sure to >> tell 'em, "Calc's". That stops everything dead in its tracks. >> >> Seriously, the fastest way to get their attention will be to yell "MORE >> MONEY!!" It's like yelling "Snake!" at a girl scout camp. >> >> Right George? >> >> Steve Leyton >> Protection Design & Consulting >> San Diego, CA >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George >> Church >> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:03 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Renegade HVAC Contractor >> >> You could consider just throwing up a couple lengths of pipe alongside >> the >> big openings on their trunk duct, amking sure you're the size of the >> opening >> + 6" away from it so you've accommodated the offsets they'd need to get >> around you. Start with the openings just outside the meeting room. >> >> A couple lengths under roof top openings should give them a clue that >> you're >> serious. In one day you should be able to hang a couple lengths in front >> of >> several of these, no outlets required, helps you make your point. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fletcher, >> Ron >> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:21 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Renegade HVAC Contractor >> >> At least you are not spending money and time on BIM while all the other >> trades are doing installation. Remember the sprinkler creed "install >> high install first". >> >> Ron Fletcher >> Aero Automatic >> Phoenix >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian >> Harris >> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:02 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Renegade HVAC Contractor >> >> I could use a little ammo for an upcoming coordination meeting I have on >> Monday. We are working on a pretty big school and the HVAC sub (per the >> spec) is suppose to be spearheading a set of coordination drawings that >> all subs need to agree on and then sigh off on before "any work can be >> fabricated or installed". These drawings still have not been completed >> and are actually not even close to being done. >> >> Here's where it gets good: >> >> * He has already begun installing his duct and has actually >> completed >> a couple wings. (without the approved coordination drawings) >> * He wants to run all his ductwork 8" above ceiling throughout and >> says sprinkler pipe needs to run above him, "that's industry standard" >> !! >> * He says he's never heard of ductwork being run through the >> joist, >> it's always the sprinkler lines that run up high. (this is in areas with >> ceiling tiles) >> >> I could go on and on but I think you get the point, what I would love to >> have is some hard facts/references that I can provide at the meeting so >> this doesn't turn into a bigger pissing contest than it already has. I >> don't dare release our pipe for fab without the drawings being signed >> off but in the mean time he is installing away! >> >> >> Regards, >> >> <http://www.firstdefensefire.com/> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) Database version: >> 6.12940 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: >> [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email >> to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: >> [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email >> to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 4291 (20090730) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 4292 (20090730) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 4292 (20090730) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Bates Technical College Tacoma, WA Member: SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA AFAA _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
