It's a stretch to think we're going to have self-closers on bathroom doors.....
glc -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland Huggins Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 6:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Definition of Bathroom vs 8 inch lintel That's the attitude I follow. We went through some of this back around the 02 ed when it was unclear as to whether the bathroom needs a door. Since we are talking about omitting sprinklers, our position WAS that a door is needed, the TC said otherwise. It pretty much just said a compartment. Then the changes to the definition in NFPA 13 on compartment entered the fray (for which a slightly modified version was accepted at the ROP Meeting). Attempting to literally apply the definition on the lintel when we are talking about having omitted protection (in other words, what you said). As with all gray issues, discussions with the AHJ before locking in a bid is a must. Roland On Aug 10, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Justin Reid wrote: > The delay is dependent on which side of the door the fire is on, the > sprinklered side or the non-sprinklered side. If the fire is on the > sprinklered side, then the fire is in the protected area. If the > fire is in > the bathroom on the non-sprinklered side, then the 8 inch lintel > will delay > the heat from reaching a head on the sprinklered side. So, it sounds > like no > lintel is better in this case;) > I think the intent of the 36 inch width versus lintel is for two > sprinklered > areas connected by an opening (which does not necessarily have a > door on > it). And I think the intent of leaving the head out of a small > bathroom is > that fires usually do not happen there and if they do, there is a > very small > amount of combustibles. I don't think a burning toilet paper roll > would even > set a head off. > > This seems open to interpretation. I can see where one would be > coming from > using the opening requirements from the other sections. On the other > hand, > it is still a bathroom and is exempt by chapter 8. _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
