Reqmnts for calcs are independent of the type of pipe.
If you have crappy water, galv gives you c=120 instead of c=100- so do you
want 25% increase in pipe fro line size increase, or 25% increase to stay
size and install galv? 

XL is galv outside, not internally galvanized.
It is an assurance that service work will continue into the next generation.

glc

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eladio N.
Alvarado
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 9:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Galvanized Pipe

Then, There is no mandate to use galvanized pipe on "Dry" or pre-action
systems. Pre-action systems are considered "Dry". Only when galvanized pipe
is used there are requirements for calculations, etc. I'm so much smarter
than I was just and hour or so ago.

Thank you all, very much.

Eladio Alvarado
AFSDII

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of Chris Cahill
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 9:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Galvanized Pipe

Practically speaking there is nothing galvanized about XL.  If any entity,
FM, NFPA, PE, owner, large drop heads required galvanized pipe XL wouldn't
qualify.

Chris Cahill, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.

763-658-4483
763-658-4921 fax

Email: [email protected]

Mail: P.O. Box 69
        Waverly, MN 55390

Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW
              Waverly, MN 55390

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eladio N.
Alvarado
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:26 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Galvanized Pipe

Todd, I do recall that FM at one point required it, but I though that it had
been incorporated to NFPA in subsequent revisions? Wasn't that the reason
for the thread able light wall pipe "XL"? If you would, please elaborate.


Eladio Alvarado
AFSDII

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of Todd Williams
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 9:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Galvanized Pipe

It's not required by any specific standard, but is required by
several insurance companies


At 09:04 AM 9/9/2009, you wrote:
>Would someone be good enough to direct me to the specific location where
>Galvanized pipe is required by 13 for Dry systems? And where it may be
>indicated that Pre-action systems are considered "Dry". I've been trying to
>find it on the On-line codes but I seem to be having trouble dealing with
>their search engine. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>Eladio Alvarado
>AFSDII
>
>
>
>
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