It's within NFPA 13 and there is a specific sprinkler designed and approved 
which is reported to provide equivalency of a 2 hour separation according to 
its listing.   

We've trod this ground before, it's doable and permitted by published Codes and 
Standards.  


Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection Specialist
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
[email protected]
http://www.ch2m.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Autry, David
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Water curtains for windows

Somewhere, somehow, somebody told some architects and engineers that they can 
use water curtains in lieu of fire-rated construction. 

David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
402-471-9659
402-471-3118 fax
www.sfm.ne.gov
 
** Note new email address: [email protected]
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jerry Costello
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Water curtains for windows

We have found that on occasion the arch will get a building modification to 
utilize sprinklers in lieu of a particular "fire rating" at a window wood panel 
etc... Normally the modification is quite specific as to one side or both. We 
have in these cases always used the 6' spacing rules for water curtain. 


Jerry M Costello set
Advance Fire Protection
Ph 714-526-2231  Fax 562-691-5482

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Cahill
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Water curtains for windows

Now I'm curious.  What did you find?  I didn't think there was anything about 
glass in 13.  What Tim referenced is for vertical openings.  Not applicable to 
glass walls. 

There is some stuff in the atrium section of IBC but that's very specific to 
atriums and wouldn't apply to other openings. 

Chris Cahill, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.
 
763-658-4483
763-658-4921 fax
 
Email: [email protected]
 
Mail: P.O. Box 69
        Waverly, MN 55390
 
Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW
              Waverly, MN 55390

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bobby Gillett
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Water curtains for windows

Nevermind, we found it. Sorry about that...after all it is one of those days.

Bobby Gillett
Sr. Project Manager
Key Fire Protection, Inc.
(731) 424-0130 office  (731) 424-9285 fax
(731) 267-4853 cell
[email protected]
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bobby Gillett
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Water curtains for windows

It's one of those days. We have a job calling for a water curtain (sprinklers 
on both sides of a window), Where is the direction from NFPA for this? I know 
TYCO makes a window sprinkler, but isn't there direction for standard 
sprinklers in NFPA somewhere? 

 

Thank You,

 

Bobby Gillett

Sr. Project Manager

Key Fire Protection, Inc.

(731) 424-0130 office  (731) 424-9285 fax 

(731) 267-4853 cell

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