not a door but a rated partition using glass and sprinklers Roland
On Sep 22, 2009, at 2:06 PM, Autry, David wrote: > So you're telling me that there is a sprinkler that can replace a 2- > hour fire-rated door? > > David Autry > Plans Examiner > Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office > 246 S. 14th Street > Lincoln, NE 68508 > 402-471-9659 > 402-471-3118 fax > www.sfm.ne.gov > > ** Note new email address: [email protected] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected] > ] On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:03 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Water curtains for windows > > It's within NFPA 13 and there is a specific sprinkler designed and > approved which is reported to provide equivalency of a 2 hour > separation according to its listing. > > We've trod this ground before, it's doable and permitted by > published Codes and Standards. > > > Craig L. Prahl, CET > Fire Protection Specialist > Mechanical Department > CH2MHILL > Lockwood Greene > 1500 International Drive > PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 > Direct - 864.599.4102 > Fax - 864.599.8439 > [email protected] > http://www.ch2m.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected] > ] On Behalf Of Autry, David > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:58 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Water curtains for windows > > Somewhere, somehow, somebody told some architects and engineers that > they can use water curtains in lieu of fire-rated construction. > > David Autry > Plans Examiner > Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office > 246 S. 14th Street > Lincoln, NE 68508 > 402-471-9659 > 402-471-3118 fax > www.sfm.ne.gov > > ** Note new email address: [email protected] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected] > ] On Behalf Of Jerry Costello > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:48 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Water curtains for windows > > We have found that on occasion the arch will get a building > modification to utilize sprinklers in lieu of a particular "fire > rating" at a window wood panel etc... Normally the modification is > quite specific as to one side or both. We have in these cases always > used the 6' spacing rules for water curtain. > > > Jerry M Costello set > Advance Fire Protection > Ph 714-526-2231 Fax 562-691-5482 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris > Cahill > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Water curtains for windows > > Now I'm curious. What did you find? I didn't think there was > anything about glass in 13. What Tim referenced is for vertical > openings. Not applicable to glass walls. > > There is some stuff in the atrium section of IBC but that's very > specific to atriums and wouldn't apply to other openings. > > Chris Cahill, P.E. > Fire Protection Engineer > Sentry Fire Protection, Inc. > > 763-658-4483 > 763-658-4921 fax > > Email: [email protected] > > Mail: P.O. Box 69 > Waverly, MN 55390 > > Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW > Waverly, MN 55390 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bobby > Gillett > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:51 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Water curtains for windows > > Nevermind, we found it. Sorry about that...after all it is one of > those days. > > Bobby Gillett > Sr. Project Manager > Key Fire Protection, Inc. > (731) 424-0130 office (731) 424-9285 fax > (731) 267-4853 cell > [email protected] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bobby > Gillett > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:49 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Water curtains for windows > > It's one of those days. We have a job calling for a water curtain > (sprinklers on both sides of a window), Where is the direction from > NFPA for this? I know TYCO makes a window sprinkler, but isn't there > direction for standard sprinklers in NFPA somewhere? > > > > Thank You, > > > > Bobby Gillett > > Sr. Project Manager > > Key Fire Protection, Inc. > > (731) 424-0130 office (731) 424-9285 fax > > (731) 267-4853 cell > > <mailto:[email protected]> > [email protected] > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
