not a door but a rated partition using glass and sprinklers

Roland

On Sep 22, 2009, at 2:06 PM, Autry, David wrote:

> So you're telling me that there is a sprinkler that can replace a 2- 
> hour fire-rated door?
>
> David Autry
> Plans Examiner
> Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
> 246 S. 14th Street
> Lincoln, NE 68508
> 402-471-9659
> 402-471-3118 fax
> www.sfm.ne.gov
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected] 
> ] On Behalf Of [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:03 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Water curtains for windows
>
> It's within NFPA 13 and there is a specific sprinkler designed and  
> approved which is reported to provide equivalency of a 2 hour  
> separation according to its listing.
>
> We've trod this ground before, it's doable and permitted by  
> published Codes and Standards.
>
>
> Craig L. Prahl, CET
> Fire Protection Specialist
> Mechanical Department
> CH2MHILL
> Lockwood Greene
> 1500 International Drive
> PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
> Direct - 864.599.4102
> Fax - 864.599.8439
> [email protected]
> http://www.ch2m.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected] 
> ] On Behalf Of Autry, David
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:58 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Water curtains for windows
>
> Somewhere, somehow, somebody told some architects and engineers that  
> they can use water curtains in lieu of fire-rated construction.
>
> David Autry
> Plans Examiner
> Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
> 246 S. 14th Street
> Lincoln, NE 68508
> 402-471-9659
> 402-471-3118 fax
> www.sfm.ne.gov
>
> ** Note new email address: [email protected]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected] 
> ] On Behalf Of Jerry Costello
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:48 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Water curtains for windows
>
> We have found that on occasion the arch will get a building  
> modification to utilize sprinklers in lieu of a particular "fire  
> rating" at a window wood panel etc... Normally the modification is  
> quite specific as to one side or both. We have in these cases always  
> used the 6' spacing rules for water curtain.
>
>
> Jerry M Costello set
> Advance Fire Protection
> Ph 714-526-2231  Fax 562-691-5482
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris  
> Cahill
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:17 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Water curtains for windows
>
> Now I'm curious.  What did you find?  I didn't think there was  
> anything about glass in 13.  What Tim referenced is for vertical  
> openings.  Not applicable to glass walls.
>
> There is some stuff in the atrium section of IBC but that's very  
> specific to atriums and wouldn't apply to other openings.
>
> Chris Cahill, P.E.
> Fire Protection Engineer
> Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.
>
> 763-658-4483
> 763-658-4921 fax
>
> Email: [email protected]
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> Mail: P.O. Box 69
>        Waverly, MN 55390
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> Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW
>              Waverly, MN 55390
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bobby  
> Gillett
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:51 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Water curtains for windows
>
> Nevermind, we found it. Sorry about that...after all it is one of  
> those days.
>
> Bobby Gillett
> Sr. Project Manager
> Key Fire Protection, Inc.
> (731) 424-0130 office  (731) 424-9285 fax
> (731) 267-4853 cell
> [email protected]
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bobby  
> Gillett
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:49 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Water curtains for windows
>
> It's one of those days. We have a job calling for a water curtain  
> (sprinklers on both sides of a window), Where is the direction from  
> NFPA for this? I know TYCO makes a window sprinkler, but isn't there  
> direction for standard sprinklers in NFPA somewhere?
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
>
>
> Bobby Gillett
>
> Sr. Project Manager
>
> Key Fire Protection, Inc.
>
> (731) 424-0130 office  (731) 424-9285 fax
>
> (731) 267-4853 cell
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