Is it possible that there is a water tank on site at an elevation of about
50 ft? That would give you about 25 psi at grade. I have seen some building
with old tanks concealed in the building the a new owner never knew he had.


 James J. Toth, SET

 67 East Washington Street
 Chagrin Falls, OH 44022-3028, USA

 Phone: (440) 247-3770
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Law, Kevin W
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Puzzling problem

You haven't left the valves shut for the night have you (sounds like
something I might forget to do ;) )


Kevin Law, PE
Bechtel National, Inc.
Waste Treatment Project
Fire Protection Engineering
Work  (509) 371-3280
Cell    (509) 531-5715


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
[email protected]
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Puzzling problem

>From what device is the water running?  Where on the system?  Could you
have an ACV hung open and the water is coming from a draining sprinkler
system?


Craig L. Prahl, CET
Fire Protection Specialist
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
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http://www.ch2m.com


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ford,
Charles
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Puzzling problem

We have a new customer with repair problems. To do the repair, we shut
off the water in the outside pit. We still can't drain the system. Clear
water runs at about 25 PSI. We called in the water purveyor and they
shut it off at the street. Same results unchanged. We have examined the
original site plans showing only one connection.
Water purveyor has checked their plans and agrees. Obviously there is
another connection, whereabouts unknown to anybody. Any suggestions on
how to proceed? We could freeze the line for the repair, but would
prefer to locate this other connection.

C. Burton Ford
Designer- NICET Certified: Fire Alarm,
Special Hazards, Sprinkler Design
&Sprinkler Inspections
NFPA CFPS
Cintas Fire Protection-D-47
Warminster, PA 18974
Phone 267-487-1000
Fax 267-487-1010


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