Great minds think alike.

Also, the UFC specifically requires wet-pipe sprinkler protection in
computer server rooms and data centers.  I don't see why comm closets would
be exempt from this.

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:54 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> There is no wording for such a requirement.  Only exception in the NEC is
> for Vaults but if you read the handbook commentary you'll see that sprinkler
> piping is exempt from that requirement there as well.
>
> If you read section 110.26(F)1.C of the NEC you you'll get a bunch of
> circular wording but the basic intent is spelled out.  The majority of the
> electrical inspectors are making things up as they go based on old wives
> tales and something someone else did decades ago because he could, not
> because it was a code requirement.
>
> Make them show you the text reference.
>
> Electrical equipment rooms, telecom rooms, computer rooms, etc are no
> different than any other room in the building when it comes to requiring
> sprinklers.  There are some exceptions to the requirement in NFPA 13 with
> parallel wording in some building codes but to not sprinkler the room
> requires other construction and operation measures to be adhered to in order
> to be compliant.
>
> In a lot of commercial and residential bldgs. the electrical room could be
> the room where the greatest chance for fire is present.  Yet it is the one
> room that is most often left unprotected due to someone's boogie-man fears
> of water and electricity.
>
>
> Craig L. Prahl, CET
> Fire Protection Specialist
> Mechanical Department
> CH2MHILL
> Lockwood Greene
> 1500 International Drive
> PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
> Direct - 864.599.4102
> Fax - 864.599.8439
> [email protected]
> http://www.ch2m.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Bobby Gillett
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:38 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Water Filled Pipe in Telecomm Room?
>
> In NFPA 70, somewhere. Every electrical inspector I have had will let us
> enter a room but not exit, with main, branch line, etc. (any piping). I'll
> try to put my finger on it.
>
> Bobby Gillett
> Sr. Project Manager
> Key Fire Protection, Inc.
> (731) 424-0130 office  (731) 424-9285 fax
> (731) 267-4853 cell
> [email protected]
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fletcher,
> Ron
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:30 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Water Filled Pipe in Telecomm Room?
>
> Where does it say "not exit electrical rooms"? I know about the restricted
> space limitations and the required clearances.
>
> Ron Fletcher
> Aero Automatic
> Phoenix
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bobby
> Gillett
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:25 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Water Filled Pipe in Telecomm Room?
>
> I think what is flagging you is the fact the electrical code causes us to
> enter and not exit electrical rooms and has restrictions on placement of
> pipe. You might check with the electrical inspector, or whoever would have
> that jurisdiction ,and see if it applies to the telecomm room as well.
>
> Bobby Gillett
> Sr. Project Manager
> Key Fire Protection, Inc.
> (731) 424-0130 office  (731) 424-9285 fax
> (731) 267-4853 cell
> [email protected]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brown, Mike
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:16 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Water Filled Pipe in Telecomm Room?
>
> Also, I forgot to mention the telecomm room has no ceiling.
>
> Mike Brown
> Project Designer
> Sunland Fire Protection
> 1218 Elon Place
> High Point, NC 27263
> Ph. 336.886.7027 Ext. 140
> Fax: 336.886.7024
> WWW.SUNLANDFIRE.COM
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:14 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Water Filled Pipe in Telecomm Room?
>
> Nothing prevents you from running it above the room unless there's some
> military spec saying you can't.  NFPA doesn't prevent it. Are you
> providing a sprinkler in the room?
>
>
> Craig L. Prahl, CET
> Fire Protection Specialist
> Mechanical Department
> CH2MHILL
> Lockwood Greene
> 1500 International Drive
> PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
> Direct - 864.599.4102
> Fax - 864.599.8439
> [email protected]
> http://www.ch2m.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brown,
> Mike
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:10 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Water Filled Pipe in Telecomm Room?
>
> I working on a design for an existing military barrack... and the FPE is
> directing us to run our main through a telecomm room? I am trying to
> find something saying that I can or can't do this? Any thoughts? Thanks
> in advance.
>
>
>
> Mike Brown
>
> Project Designer
>
> Sunland Fire Protection
>
> 1218 Elon Place
>
> High Point, NC 27263
>
> Ph. 336.886.7027 Ext. 140
>
> Fax: 336.886.7024
>
> WWW.SUNLANDFIRE.COM <http://WWW.SUNLANDFIRE.COM>
>
>
>
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