Great minds think alike. Also, the UFC specifically requires wet-pipe sprinkler protection in computer server rooms and data centers. I don't see why comm closets would be exempt from this.
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:54 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > There is no wording for such a requirement. Only exception in the NEC is > for Vaults but if you read the handbook commentary you'll see that sprinkler > piping is exempt from that requirement there as well. > > If you read section 110.26(F)1.C of the NEC you you'll get a bunch of > circular wording but the basic intent is spelled out. The majority of the > electrical inspectors are making things up as they go based on old wives > tales and something someone else did decades ago because he could, not > because it was a code requirement. > > Make them show you the text reference. > > Electrical equipment rooms, telecom rooms, computer rooms, etc are no > different than any other room in the building when it comes to requiring > sprinklers. There are some exceptions to the requirement in NFPA 13 with > parallel wording in some building codes but to not sprinkler the room > requires other construction and operation measures to be adhered to in order > to be compliant. > > In a lot of commercial and residential bldgs. the electrical room could be > the room where the greatest chance for fire is present. Yet it is the one > room that is most often left unprotected due to someone's boogie-man fears > of water and electricity. > > > Craig L. Prahl, CET > Fire Protection Specialist > Mechanical Department > CH2MHILL > Lockwood Greene > 1500 International Drive > PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 > Direct - 864.599.4102 > Fax - 864.599.8439 > [email protected] > http://www.ch2m.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Bobby Gillett > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:38 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Water Filled Pipe in Telecomm Room? > > In NFPA 70, somewhere. Every electrical inspector I have had will let us > enter a room but not exit, with main, branch line, etc. (any piping). I'll > try to put my finger on it. > > Bobby Gillett > Sr. Project Manager > Key Fire Protection, Inc. > (731) 424-0130 office (731) 424-9285 fax > (731) 267-4853 cell > [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fletcher, > Ron > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:30 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Water Filled Pipe in Telecomm Room? > > Where does it say "not exit electrical rooms"? I know about the restricted > space limitations and the required clearances. > > Ron Fletcher > Aero Automatic > Phoenix > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bobby > Gillett > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:25 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Water Filled Pipe in Telecomm Room? > > I think what is flagging you is the fact the electrical code causes us to > enter and not exit electrical rooms and has restrictions on placement of > pipe. You might check with the electrical inspector, or whoever would have > that jurisdiction ,and see if it applies to the telecomm room as well. > > Bobby Gillett > Sr. Project Manager > Key Fire Protection, Inc. > (731) 424-0130 office (731) 424-9285 fax > (731) 267-4853 cell > [email protected] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brown, Mike > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:16 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Water Filled Pipe in Telecomm Room? > > Also, I forgot to mention the telecomm room has no ceiling. > > Mike Brown > Project Designer > Sunland Fire Protection > 1218 Elon Place > High Point, NC 27263 > Ph. 336.886.7027 Ext. 140 > Fax: 336.886.7024 > WWW.SUNLANDFIRE.COM > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:14 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Water Filled Pipe in Telecomm Room? > > Nothing prevents you from running it above the room unless there's some > military spec saying you can't. NFPA doesn't prevent it. Are you > providing a sprinkler in the room? > > > Craig L. Prahl, CET > Fire Protection Specialist > Mechanical Department > CH2MHILL > Lockwood Greene > 1500 International Drive > PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 > Direct - 864.599.4102 > Fax - 864.599.8439 > [email protected] > http://www.ch2m.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brown, > Mike > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:10 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Water Filled Pipe in Telecomm Room? > > I working on a design for an existing military barrack... and the FPE is > directing us to run our main through a telecomm room? I am trying to > find something saying that I can or can't do this? Any thoughts? 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