Actually, there is no requirement anywhere in NFPA-70 or NFPA-13 (that I am 
aware) of that requires control valves on the piping feeding electrical rooms 
nor is there any requirement in either document requiring the sprinkler piping 
to terminate in the electrical room.

I know MOST electrical inspectors do not want sprinklers or sprinkler piping 
within "their" room, but to this day, not one (1) inspector can indicate to me 
WHERE these "requirements" or "prohibitions" are located and I have not yet 
found them on my own.

To expand these thoughts, there are no requirements in the National Elevator 
Code for control valves nor piping terminations for elevator shafts nor 
elevator equipment rooms either (removed from the code in 1996), but we fight 
the same battles day in and day out with the elevator inspectors as well.

Unless there are state-specific or local codes / ordinances that mandate these 
requirements, it simply is a point of contention between the electrical / 
elevator inspectors and the sprinkler industry. (We do it "to codes and 
standards" but they want something else.)

That being said, we simply try to avoid creating these "conflicts". However, 
when building construction features or other site conditions are such that to 
avoid running thru these spaces is so much more costly, we do, at times, choose 
to battle the "we do not want it" mentality.

You certainly want to pick and choose your battles carefully ;-)

Ray Vance - SET
Chief Sales Designer
Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers, Inc.
www.waynefire.com
407-877-5563   office
321-436-2184   mobile


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of G. Tim Stone
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Water Filled Pipe in Telecomm Room?

Mike,

Usually the Electrical Inspectors that I have dealt with do not want sprinkler 
main piping that runs through the room. If a main is to pass through then there 
can be no joints within the space. If a sprinkler head is to be installed then 
we pipe it in from outside the room and usually are required to install a 
indicating control valve with tamper switch.

G. Tim Stone


NICET Level III Engineering Technician
Fire Protection Sprinkler Design
and Consulting Services

117 Old Stage Rd. - Essex Jct., VT. 05452
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:sprinklerforum-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Brown, Mike
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:15 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Water Filled Pipe in Telecomm Room?
>
> Yes, we are providing a sprinkler head for the room.
>
> Mike Brown
> Project Designer
> Sunland Fire Protection
> 1218 Elon Place
> High Point, NC 27263
> Ph. 336.886.7027 Ext. 140
> Fax: 336.886.7024
> WWW.SUNLANDFIRE.COM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:14 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Water Filled Pipe in Telecomm Room?
>
> Nothing prevents you from running it above the room unless there's
> some military spec saying you can't.  NFPA doesn't prevent it. Are you
> providing a sprinkler in the room?
>
>
> Craig L. Prahl, CET
> Fire Protection Specialist
> Mechanical Department
> CH2MHILL
> Lockwood Greene
> 1500 International Drive
> PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax -
> 864.599.8439 [email protected] http://www.ch2m.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brown,
> Mike
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:10 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Water Filled Pipe in Telecomm Room?
>
> I working on a design for an existing military barrack... and the FPE
> is directing us to run our main through a telecomm room? I am trying
> to find something saying that I can or can't do this? Any thoughts?
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> Mike Brown
>
> Project Designer
>
> Sunland Fire Protection
>
> 1218 Elon Place
>
> High Point, NC 27263
>
> Ph. 336.886.7027 Ext. 140
>
> Fax: 336.886.7024
>
> WWW.SUNLANDFIRE.COM <http://WWW.SUNLANDFIRE.COM>
>
>
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