Cliff, I was in that seminar on Saturday morning. Old, fat, bald, bushy beard up near the front. I was the one kept saying all the seemingly weird tank rules for high rises made sense. Mark, I'm sorry I missed you to. One problem was i was I blew in late Thursday and left med day on Saturday. Won't be cutting the visit short next time. I missed too much. And I know Muncy is lurking so I'll say that was the best organized convention, conference, training thing I've ever attended. No minutes wasted and not enough time to do all that I'd have liked to.
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:57 AM, Cliff Whitfield <[email protected]> wrote: > George, > > Somehow I failed to meet Ron. When I saw the post yesterday I couldn't > believe I had missed him but based on his comments I'll see him next year in > Providence. I understand that there may even be a "forum get together" like > we had a few years ago. Not sure why they stopped having them. > > Back on the subject, I learned something invaluable during the NFPA 20 > session. Based on the minimum submergence requirement in 7.2.2.2.1 (quoting > 07 now) you need quite a bit of water left in the tank to accomplish this. > I have never done a Vertical Turbine in an underground tank but you > obviously have to oversize the tank to be sure that you compensate for this. > > > Once again, another jewel from the conference. Keeping from making mistakes > can be priceless as well. I would hate to have to pay for (or have my E&O > pay for) removal and replacement of a tank because I had missed this in 20. > Especially since this probably wouldn't be realized until the acceptance > test when the client was ready to move into their new facility. Ouch! > > Cliff > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Church > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:03 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Underground Tank Refill Valve > > I think the operative phrase is PRICELESS > > Cliff gets bonus points for attending, too- > Don't know if he and Ron had a meet and greet. > Aero had numerous attendees that were probably sleep-deprived on the way > home :) > > glc > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve > Kowkabany > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:29 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: RE: Underground Tank Refill Valve > > Pretty impressive. Thanks a lot guys. > > > Steve Kowkabany, P.E. > Fire Protection Engineer > Neptune Fire Protection Engineering LLC > 60 Ocean Boulevard, Suite 15 > Atlantic Beach, FL 32233 > 904-652-4200 Phone > 904-212-0868 Fax > > We have moved. Please note our new address. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:57 PM > To: AFSA > Subject: Re: Underground Tank Refill Valve > > Not bad at all. Also, go to Bermad's web site; they have two or three > float-activated valves up to at least 8" diameter. > > > SL > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:33:10 > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Underground Tank Refill Valve > > > 48 minutes for a solution, after hours. > > Not bad. > > Bruce V. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Greenman" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30:34 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: Re: Underground Tank Refill Valve > > Steve, > > Try this: > > http://www.flomatic.com/index.asp?lg=1&w=pages&r=95&pid=240 > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Steve Kowkabany <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Does anyone have a recommendation for the specific type of valve that I >> could use to automatically refill an underground 10,000 gallon Xerxes fire > >> water tank? It will be refilled by a 4" line from the public water main. >> I'm envisioning a float valve like toilet's use, but I can't say I have > ever >> seen one that big. >> >> >> >> Thanks very much, >> >> >> >> >> >> Steve Kowkabany, P.E. >> >> Fire Protection Engineer >> >> Neptune Fire Protection Engineering LLC >> >> 60 Ocean Boulevard, Suite 15 >> >> Atlantic Beach, FL 32233 >> >> 904-652-4200 Phone >> >> 904-212-0868 Fax >> >> >> >> We have moved. 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