Chowda and Del's Frozen Lemonade in RI I did a VT in an underground tank last year and Xerxes makes one with a sump that takes care of the submergence issue.
At 10:46 AM 10/21/2009, you wrote: >I think they stopped having forum parties because the supply of >cheddar and jack cheese cubes was depleted by previous >get-togethers. Perhaps next year in RI we could do a lobster roll buffet? > >Steve Leyton >Protection Design & Consulting >San Diego, CA > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff Whitfield >Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:57 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: Underground Tank Refill Valve > >George, > >Somehow I failed to meet Ron. When I saw the post yesterday I couldn't >believe I had missed him but based on his comments I'll see him next year in >Providence. I understand that there may even be a "forum get together" like >we had a few years ago. Not sure why they stopped having them. > >Back on the subject, I learned something invaluable during the NFPA 20 >session. Based on the minimum submergence requirement in 7.2.2.2.1 (quoting >07 now) you need quite a bit of water left in the tank to accomplish this. >I have never done a Vertical Turbine in an underground tank but you >obviously have to oversize the tank to be sure that you compensate for this. > > >Once again, another jewel from the conference. Keeping from making mistakes >can be priceless as well. I would hate to have to pay for (or have my E&O >pay for) removal and replacement of a tank because I had missed this in 20. >Especially since this probably wouldn't be realized until the acceptance >test when the client was ready to move into their new facility. Ouch! > >Cliff > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Church >Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:03 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: Underground Tank Refill Valve > >I think the operative phrase is PRICELESS > >Cliff gets bonus points for attending, too- >Don't know if he and Ron had a meet and greet. >Aero had numerous attendees that were probably sleep-deprived on the way >home :) > >glc > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve >Kowkabany >Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:29 PM >To: [email protected]; [email protected] >Subject: RE: Underground Tank Refill Valve > >Pretty impressive. Thanks a lot guys. > > >Steve Kowkabany, P.E. >Fire Protection Engineer >Neptune Fire Protection Engineering LLC >60 Ocean Boulevard, Suite 15 >Atlantic Beach, FL 32233 >904-652-4200 Phone >904-212-0868 Fax > >We have moved. Please note our new address. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >[email protected] >Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:57 PM >To: AFSA >Subject: Re: Underground Tank Refill Valve > >Not bad at all. Also, go to Bermad's web site; they have two or three >float-activated valves up to at least 8" diameter. > > >SL > >Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:33:10 >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: Underground Tank Refill Valve > > >48 minutes for a solution, after hours. > >Not bad. > >Bruce V. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ron Greenman" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30:34 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific >Subject: Re: Underground Tank Refill Valve > >Steve, > >Try this: > >http://www.flomatic.com/index.asp?lg=1&w=pages&r=95&pid=240 > >On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Steve Kowkabany <[email protected]> >wrote: > > Does anyone have a recommendation for the specific type of valve that I > > could use to automatically refill an underground 10,000 gallon Xerxes fire > > > water tank? It will be refilled by a 4" line from the public water main. > > I'm envisioning a float valve like toilet's use, but I can't say I have >ever > > seen one that big. > > > > > > > > Thanks very much, > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Kowkabany, P.E. > > > > Fire Protection Engineer > > > > Neptune Fire Protection Engineering LLC > > > > 60 Ocean Boulevard, Suite 15 > > > > Atlantic Beach, FL 32233 > > > > 904-652-4200 Phone > > > > 904-212-0868 Fax > > > > > > > > We have moved. Please note our new address. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > > > >-- >Ron Greenman >Instructor >Fire Protection Engineering >Bates Technical College >Tacoma, WA > >Member: >SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA AFAA, WSAFM >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.21/2445 - Release Date: 10/20/09 >18:42:00 > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) Todd G. Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, Connecticut www.fpdc.com 860.535.2080 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
