Mike, Also be sure to check where the manufactured home is going to be located.
In California the plans for such structures are apparently approved by the State Fire Marshal and if you ever wish to hear the wrath of the Lord you need only suggest to one of the contractors doing such work that the fire sprinkler system for it has not been designed properly. You'll hear a litany of reasons that you both have a) no jurisdiction over such buildings and b) have a lot of nerve suggesting that something be changed that's been "the way we've done it for years." In all the 21 years I've been doing plan review I've never heard anyone scream like the individual I spoke to suggesting that a 58 square foot bathroom needed a sprinkler to conform with NFPA-13D. Hope your experience works out better than mine because I still have a partial hearing loss as a result of his response. PARSLEY CONSULTING Ken Wagoner, SET 760.745.6181 voice 760.745.0537 fax [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> e-mail www.ParsleyConsulting.com <http://www.ParsleyConsulting.com> website Mike Cabral wrote: > Thanks Ron, Tom and Steve. I read it the same way however, more to Tom's > point I recommend installing a sprinkler in the space. But, if your building > 450 units that's 450 heads over the long haul. The builder questions the > need and the more I think about it the harder it is to make the case for the > head. Access to the space requires the removal of a dozen or so screws so the > first time they access the space you need a real desire. I envision one or > none of the screws going back in. . . which would make the space a great > place to store who knows what. > > Have a great Holiday everyone! > > Mike Cabral > > ---- Steve Leyton <[email protected]> wrote: > >> And I don't disagree with Ron on second read. Was in a grueling meeting >> all morning and didn't read closely enough; electric water heater ... no >> sprinkler required. >> >> Disclaimer ... my opinion ... yada, yada. >> >> Steve Leyton >> Protection Design & Consulting >> San Diego, CA >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ron Greenman [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:42 AM >> To: [email protected]; Steve Leyton >> Subject: Re: 13D 8.6 Question >> >> I'll disagree with Steve. Room is less than 24 sqft, not greater than >> 3 ft in the least dimension and does not contain a fuel fired >> appliance. Plus it is accessed from the outside so even though it is >> within the rectangular perimeter of the structure it is essentially an >> exterior closet. And even if it were accessed from inside I'd say it >> meets the spirit of those small exempt spaces. >> >> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:57 AM, steve <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Not IMHO. >>> >>> Not a formal interp, my opinion only, yada, yada, yada. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: "Mike Cabral" <[email protected]> >>> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:46:01 >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Subject: 13D 8.6 Question >>> >>> A Manufactured Home (FEMA trailer 14' x 60') has an equipment room that >>> contains a electric hot water heater. Area of the room is six (6) total >>> square feet. Least is dimension 2'. No access from inside the unit. The >>> space has an access panel on the outside of the unit. It has a wood floor >>> with ½" sheetrock walls and ceilings. 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