>From what I gather from everyone's comments (correct me if I'm wrong)
... you install the flanges just inside the secure area and the
insulating gaskets and bolt sleeves to eliminate the ability for someone
to use a stethoscope to listen in on a conversation.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
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Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 8:27 AM
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Subject: Re: "SCIF" Wall Penetration

Mike, go to www.apsonline.com/gasket.html.I think this is what you are
looking for.


---- [email protected] wrote: 
> 
> All: 
> 
> I've had opportunity to use install these in the pulp industry in
another life, and have seen them in my current place. I assume Steve is
describing a set up like this: 
> 
> Flange by Flange ftg. 
> 
> Drop bolts in first to ensure its ready. 
> 
> Clean flange, and tools, then hands. We used acetone from the lab to
clean our wrenches. Now I know it does burn. Not a good idea. Then
rubber (probably some kind of plastic) gloves. 
> 
> Bolts, flange, and steel washers are normal. If bolts are barely long
enough with normal washers, go up one length. 
> 
> Special non-conductive gaskets, and washers are used to provide the
isolation. But the real parts that take a little messing with are the
sleeves that go around the bolts. The need to be just shorter than the
distance between the faces of the flanges after makeup. We always had
another fitter, and the operator check them afterwords. This is not a
place to try to be productive. 100% was the only acceptable level. The
operator had to check something off some form or report. The goal was to
prevent the adjacent tank from exploding. 
> 
> Then make sure you get something on the wrenches so the don't rust. 
> 
> 
> Yours, 
> 
> Bruce V. 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "steve" <[email protected]> 
> To: "AFSA" <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2010 8:29:23 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
> Subject: Re: "SCIF" Wall Penetration 
> 
> Is this at the service entry? You can use a dielectric flange kit at
that point or, as Geo said a dielectric union. 
> 
> SL 
> 
> 
> ------Original Message------ 
> From: Mike Brown 
> Sender: [email protected] 
> To: AFSA 
> ReplyTo: AFSA 
> Subject: "SCIF" Wall Penetration 
> Sent: Mar 5, 2010 4:15 AM 
> 
> Question I am working on a project where the FPE is asking for a 
> "electrically isolated joint on the sprinkler feed main just inside
the 
> wall"? Has anyone had to deal with this before...if so what did you
use? 4" 
> Sch. 40 Main. 
> Thanks, 
> Mike Brown 
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