It would most likely be required  at or very near the shielding.Much like a 
"wave filter" for an MRI installation.I would make sure all interested parties 
are in agreement with the final location.Good Luck.


---- "Brown wrote: 
> >From what I gather from everyone's comments (correct me if I'm wrong)
> ... you install the flanges just inside the secure area and the
> insulating gaskets and bolt sleeves to eliminate the ability for someone
> to use a stethoscope to listen in on a conversation.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 8:27 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: "SCIF" Wall Penetration
> 
> Mike, go to www.apsonline.com/gasket.html.I think this is what you are
> looking for.
> 
> 
> ---- [email protected] wrote: 
> > 
> > All: 
> > 
> > I've had opportunity to use install these in the pulp industry in
> another life, and have seen them in my current place. I assume Steve is
> describing a set up like this: 
> > 
> > Flange by Flange ftg. 
> > 
> > Drop bolts in first to ensure its ready. 
> > 
> > Clean flange, and tools, then hands. We used acetone from the lab to
> clean our wrenches. Now I know it does burn. Not a good idea. Then
> rubber (probably some kind of plastic) gloves. 
> > 
> > Bolts, flange, and steel washers are normal. If bolts are barely long
> enough with normal washers, go up one length. 
> > 
> > Special non-conductive gaskets, and washers are used to provide the
> isolation. But the real parts that take a little messing with are the
> sleeves that go around the bolts. The need to be just shorter than the
> distance between the faces of the flanges after makeup. We always had
> another fitter, and the operator check them afterwords. This is not a
> place to try to be productive. 100% was the only acceptable level. The
> operator had to check something off some form or report. The goal was to
> prevent the adjacent tank from exploding. 
> > 
> > Then make sure you get something on the wrenches so the don't rust. 
> > 
> > 
> > Yours, 
> > 
> > Bruce V. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "steve" <[email protected]> 
> > To: "AFSA" <[email protected]> 
> > Sent: Friday, March 5, 2010 8:29:23 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
> > Subject: Re: "SCIF" Wall Penetration 
> > 
> > Is this at the service entry? You can use a dielectric flange kit at
> that point or, as Geo said a dielectric union. 
> > 
> > SL 
> > 
> > 
> > ------Original Message------ 
> > From: Mike Brown 
> > Sender: [email protected] 
> > To: AFSA 
> > ReplyTo: AFSA 
> > Subject: "SCIF" Wall Penetration 
> > Sent: Mar 5, 2010 4:15 AM 
> > 
> > Question I am working on a project where the FPE is asking for a 
> > "electrically isolated joint on the sprinkler feed main just inside
> the 
> > wall"? Has anyone had to deal with this before...if so what did you
> use? 4" 
> > Sch. 40 Main. 
> > Thanks, 
> > Mike Brown 
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