Jeremy,

My one piece of advice would be to call and talk to several laboratories or
testing agencies before selecting one.  I would also highly recommend asking
them to send you a sample report.  

I got burned about a year ago after using a testing lab that was highly
recommended on the forum.  We got back a report that basically said nothing
and would not rule out anything regarding MIC or the corrosion issues we
were having - it looked like a lawyer wrote it with the intention of not
going on the hook for anything.  The client was furious and they were out
$2,350.  I know the recommendations were made with the best of intentions
and maybe this firm just had a bad day, but I really recommend checking this
carefully before sending out any water/sludge/pipe samples or committing to
any significant sums of money for testing services.

Good luck,


Steve Kowkabany, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Neptune Fire Protection Engineering LLC
60 Ocean Boulevard, Suite 15
Atlantic Beach, FL 32233
904-652-4200 Phone
904-212-0868 Fax 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jay Jay
Blocker
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 4:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: MIC

I have a scenario I would like some input on.  We have a property with five
buildings all five buildings are five stories tall with dry systems in the
attics.  4 inch schedule 10 main with Tyco attic heads on 1.25 inch sprigs. 
4 of the buildings have all the main and sprigs in the attic with only the
supply and the drum drips in the heated floor below.  Building five has the
4 inch main hung in the hall way below with 10 foot sprigs penetrating the
rated ceiling into the attic.  NO pitch on any of the main.  I have not
 seen a dry system done this way before but can not seem to find anything
that says it cant be done this way.  (13-2002)  Any input on this
arrangement? 

The issue I am having is the 4 inch pipe is developing pinhole leaks at only
18 months of service.  Upon replacement of a section of pipe a sludge about
1 inch thick was discovered as well as large amounts of water.  I know the
pitching will correct the draining of the water but our concern was where
the water was coming from.  The installing contractor told the
customer "Idid you a favor to keep your main from freezing."  The question
was asked if it was possible that all the sprigs being in the cold area and
the main in the dry could be the cause for the excess water (condensation). 
Also is there any place I can send a sample of the sludge to get it tested
for possibility of MIC?  

Thanks for the help.
 
Jeremy Blocker
EFPS
(303) 353-9712


      
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