That is an important questions to ask.  A lot of pre-engineered bldgs. have 
limited capabilities when it comes to support of suspended utilities.  It is a 
question that needs to be asked before just leaving the old stuff behind.


Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection Specialist
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
[email protected]
http://www.ch2m.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
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Services
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 9:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: abandoned pipe

Would this create a building weight load problem? Will the building support all 
of this weight?

Chris Payne
FPS
Owensboro, KY

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fletcher, Ron
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 8:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: abandoned pipe

Some years ago we did an upgrade/replacement and abandoned the existing system 
in place. We even used some of the old mains as trapeze hangers for the new 
mains. I wasn't there but I heard that we had the inspector scratching his head 
trying to figure it out. I sent a picture into FPC Magazine for the "What's 
wrong with this picture" and was put in the mag. It looked awful but we could 
find no apparent code violation.

Ron Fletcher
Aero Automatic
Phoenix, AZ

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Williams
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 5:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: abandoned pipe

I was looking at a job yesterday where a new system had been installed about 15 
years ago. Prior to that, they had a partial system which was capped off an 
abandoned above the new ceiling. (the new system provided coverage where the 
old system had previously). 
The old system still has sprinklers installed. I told the contractor that the 
sprinklers had to be removed. My question is does the pipe need to be removed 
as well? I couldn't find any specific code references for either. The job is in 
MA. Thoughts?

Todd G. Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, CT
860.535.2080
www.fpdc.com

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