Just curious: how do you keep children and pool toys out of the pump inlet?

Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP 
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Church
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: abandoned pipe

If applicable code didn't require, Ron faced what isn't all that unusual,
and reminds me of the two times we used swimming pools for pump suction-

We do a lot because it's the right thing to do. Lots of these things don't
cost a lot, sometimes, like a tank, they do. I don't like using a pool, but
I'm not donating a tank to the job cause I don't like what the owner wants
to do; nor am I necessarily walking away from a job because of this. Once
every 18 years I've used a pool for water supply, and they work.

Other things are a little hairier. We generally use a 2,000 GPM pump on ESFR
jobs. Its 10" not 8" so our costs go up, not insignificantly. But when the
tenant adds a conveyor and the design area goes from 12 to 14 heads, we
don't want to say you need a new pump. We explain this, but imagine we do
lose jobs over the difference. If you're selling the GC not the
developer/owner, it's a harder sell- or they just don't care/don't
understand. 

I know, bid 1500 and add alt for 2,000 is possible, etc.

glc

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Duross
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: abandoned pipe

You beat me to it Dave.  I knew there was a 'false sense of security' clause
on 1 somewhere.
I always thought it only meant heads, devices, etc.
Tom


NFPA 1 (2003, Edition)
4.5.8.2
Existing life safety features obvious to the public, if not required by the
Code, shall be either maintained or removed. 

David Autry

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