Ron, Charles, Wouldn't using the shortest possible limit these possibilities somewhat?
We haven't really found a use for them. Don't do too many required COT jobs. Company policy is to COT anyway. We find very few problems hitting COT or the 1/4 points with straight down hard drops precut in the shop from welded openings. Probably 95% of our drops are COT or 1/4 whether required or not. Not sure why our experience is different. Brad, we know this forum is all above average and probably only represents maybe 0.1% of the industry. Your method is very rare even if justified. Norm, true it's always been available but just because the information is available doesn't mean most AHJ's will know it's even a question was my point. Chris Cahill, P.E. Fire Protection Engineer Sentry Fire Protection, Inc. 763-658-4483 763-658-4921 fax Email: [email protected] Mail: P.O. Box 69 Waverly, MN 55390 Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW Waverly, MN 55390 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charles Thurston Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 10:14 AM To: Fletcher, Ron Subject: Re: Flexible Heads, a Learnable Moment Hello Ron, Or they see how easy it is for them to "Move" it over a tile to put their "grill, light, thing-a-ma-jig" where the head was cause it is "In My Way" Friday, May 28, 2010, 11:01:49 AM, you wrote: > Even more interesting will be when the electrician, HVAC or ceiling guy > decide they can put the head back close to where it was without a sprinkler contractor on site. > Ron Fletcher > Aero Automatic > Phoenix, AZ > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Cahill > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 7:45 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Flexible Heads, a Learnable Moment > No doubt but I'm sure it's not news you are the Kleenex and Xerox of the > industry. Probably even more so than Vic couplings. > What will be interesting in the future is when the original installation > uses Flexheads and a retrofit company sees 'flexheads' and substitutes > another brand with significantly higher friction loss. Don't see too many > AHJ picking up on that one. > Chris Cahill, P.E. > Fire Protection Engineer > Sentry Fire Protection, Inc. > > 763-658-4483 > 763-658-4921 fax > > Email: [email protected] > > Mail: P.O. Box 69 > Waverly, MN 55390 > > Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW > Waverly, MN 55390 > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Norman > MacDonald > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 9:32 AM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: RE: Flexible Heads, a Learnable Moment > I would like to point out that NONE of the products depicted in the attached > website link are FlexHead products. The term flexhead is a registered > trademark of FlexHead Industries, Inc. The FlexHead product is a 1" > true-bore, fully braided and welded hose with a totally different bracketing > system. Please feel free to check out our w3ebsite or contact me directly > for additional information. > Norman MacDonald > > FLEXHEAD Industries, Inc. > 56 Lowland Street > Hollsiton, MA 01746 > (508) 893-9596 TEL > (508) 893-6020 FAX > [email protected] EMAIL > www.flexhead.com WEBSITE > This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the > addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or > confidential information. 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