Yes to Brad's question and that is a valid argument if you find yourself as an advocate before a political jurisdiction. Leyton's comment is also extremely important because they are lumping development costs into the sprinkler system. They don't include sewer impact fees when looking at the plumber's bid, etc. Getting the property ready to build and building it are separate. of course it has to be paid for but it is disingenuous to lump costs for one thing together while separating them for others.
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Brad <[email protected]> wrote: > In a case like that, would a Pressure Tank be a more economical water supply > source? I have never designed a system with a PT as source. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Leyton [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 2:07 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: St. Louis Sprinkler Article > > Before we all jump into this particular thread again, let's remember that > there are water districts out there charging $5,000-$8,000 per service for > 1" meters. We have to remember that there is more to the cost of the > system than just the portion that goes from service entry to the last > sprinkler. That said, please let me know where this work is being sold, > as I'll meet you there for cocktails. > > Steve Leyton > Protection Design & Consulting > San Diego, CA > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:54 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: St. Louis Sprinkler Article > > Well I must be working in the wrong part of the country,cuz I'm ready to get > in on some of this $10k to $15k for 2000 sq.ft. work.This recession would be > OVER. LOL > > Lamar Vaughn,SET > > > ---- Ron Greenman <[email protected]> wrote: >> Well of course interconnected alarms make the building safer from fire >> because they prevent fire somehow. My NFPA 13D/2007 Annex A .1.2(a) >> says that electrical equipment overheating or arcing is responsible >> for 14% of all home fires. Another 7% is attributed to hot objects >> including electrical equipment. Zero percent have been started by >> sprinkler systems. I suggest we ban electrical systems in new homes >> thereby making them even safer and reducing the price of the home by >> the cost of that system. >> >> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Brad <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I think the illiterate architect and the interconnected alarm would make > the >> > perfect couple >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Steve Leyton [mailto:[email protected]] >> > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:05 PM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: RE: St. Louis Sprinkler Article >> > >> > The part I think I like the most is the Union guy taking credit for >> > "getting the ball rolling". Neither he nor the writer of the article >> > make any mention of the fire service in that regard ... hard to >> > believe, I know, but the article left me speechless. Go ahead, pile >> > on, I'm too tired to fight back. >> > >> > Steve Leyton >> > Protection Design & Consulting >> > San Diego, CA >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [email protected] >> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Terri >> > Leyton >> > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 9:51 AM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: St. Louis Sprinkler Article >> > >> > Check this: >> > >> > http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/stor >> > y/2EDA98897148243D8625773F000158B6?OpenDocument >> > >> > >> > >> > Besides the usual rhetoric and misinformation, the comments from local >> > residents.. are nothing short of .. well... I can't say. I'll get >> > Steve to say something inflammatory. 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