I remember that fire. This place is in accordance with all the "bells and whistles" required by 101. Class A interior finish, floor proximity exit signs, directional marking, fire alarm, etc.
The plans submitted called it a monster and dinosaur museum and no details of the monsters or dinosaurs themselves just an area labeled "monster no.1, monster no.2" and so on. Based on museum, 13 allows Light Hazard and everything was sized accordingly, I.e. water storage tank. Now the Deputy in the field thinks the monster side is Ordinary Hazard based on what he's seeing. I had the contractor run the calculations as Ordinary and it's still under the curve. The storage tank would now only provide 51 minutes of Ordinary water. I think we should be okay, the fire doesn't know if it's Light or Ordinary or on the monster side or the dinosaur side. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David de Vries Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Haunted House You younger guys may not remember a rather important historical event involving a haunted house in NJ in the 1970's. The place was not sprinklered and several (like 5 or 6) teenagers died in the fire. The place was loaded with foam plastics and the fire spread too quickly for them to ffind the exit in the dark and twisted corridors. Thus followed all the requirements for special amusement buildings. Dave, look at the configuration, materials of construction and decoration, heights, etc. I would recommend at least OH1 and QR throughout the assembly area. Storage, mechanical, etc. at least OH2. Also, Dave, look closely at the lighting and exit signage reqs in 101. Dave David A. de Vries, P.E., CSP Firetech Engineering Incorporated --- On Tue, 7/13/10, Todd Williams <[email protected]> wrote: From: Todd Williams <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Haunted House To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 6:35 PM I've only done one and I based it on OH2. One of the caveats was that it could not be used as a for storage other than for items that are part of the display. At 05:23 PM 7/13/2010, you wrote: >Assembly would fall under Light Hazard (seems lite to me) but like a church >or auditorium your good at L H, did a amusement park in Glen Echo's MD and >everything was GP I plus mech areas GP II, personally I'd dither, that is if >you have the water design to GP I and show it as LT hazard with a large >safety factor, sleep well at night. > >On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Autry, David <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Okay, agreed, it's an assembly occupancy/special amusement. > > > > What NFPA 13 occupancy/hazard would it be? > > > > > > > > David Autry > > Plans Examiner > > Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office > > 246 S. 14th Street > > Lincoln, NE 68508 > > 402-471-9659 > > 402-471-3118 fax > > www.sfm.ne.gov > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected]<to%[email protected]> > > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > > > >-- >Tom Poisal, CET >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) Todd G. Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860.535.2080 www.fpdc.com _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
