More hangers will not work. The pipe develops "memory" and springs to that 
spot. Pipe stands can help, but often there is other stuff in the way. Short of 
chasing the leak around the flange, gaskets are the only control. 
Are crush gaskets still available?

Matt

Sent from my phone thingy.

----- Reply message -----
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Feb 11, 2011 10:21 am
Subject: misaligned flanges
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>

I have not "been there done that" but I have seen fitters try to use a
flange gasket with wafer valves, which already have a built-in gasket.
This creates a rubber-on-rubber seal which does not work well.  Yes,
sometimes you can get it to seal, but sometimes not.  If you feel you need
a flange gasket in conjunction with the wafer gasket you should really put
a steel washer ring in between so there is rubber-to-metal contact on each
side.

If that is not possible due to the tight fit, it may be that you have what
the thread title says  - misaligned flanges.  The fix for that seems like
it would be to align the flanges.  If this assembly is up in the air at the
9-foot elevation, what is supporting it?  It may be that there needs to be
more hangers for all that weight to "align" the flanges and get a good
seal.

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Services, KCP, LLC - Burns & McDonnell Engineering | National Nuclear
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  Date:       02/09/2011 04:20 PM                                               
                                       
                                                                                
                                       
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I recently replaced an 8" wafer check on a pump bypass and had a bear of a
time doing it.  It sits between 2 8" OS&Y gate valves 9' in the air and the
whole room is flanged done in 1972.  When I took the old one out, the
system
side valve dropped about 1/8".   Plus, I had to use a bottle jack and
wedges
just to spread it enough to get old out and new in and now I have a drip.
I
used the same jack to lift the old valve back up and all seemed fine but 2
weeks later; drip, drip.  I'm wondering if using double gaskets or maybe
those ribbed gaskets might help.  It's a Milwaukee 1400 if that helps.
Anyone been there done that?
TD


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