I personally design for the fire to start anywhere. You have to look at the system, not the device...
R/ Matt Matthew J. Willis Automatic Fire Sprinklers Norred Fire Systems L.L.C. 318-387-1134 Voice 318-816-1087 Mobile 318-387-1163 Facsimile [email protected] > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] [mailto:sprinklerforum- > >[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad Casterline > >Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:31 AM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: RE: partial walls in mech rooms > > > >From 24 to 42 square feet of floor (the floor is where we design for the > >fire starting)-- does this floor space require a thousand or two square > >feet > >of sprinklers? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Matthew J. Willis [mailto:[email protected]] > >Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:17 AM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: RE: partial walls in mech rooms > > > >? > > > > > > > > > > > >Matthew J. Willis > >Automatic Fire Sprinklers > >Norred Fire Systems L.L.C. > >318-387-1134 Voice > >318-816-1087 Mobile > >318-387-1163 Facsimile > >[email protected] > > > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: [email protected] [mailto:sprinklerforum- > >> >[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad Casterline > >> >Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:10 AM > >> >To: [email protected] > >> >Subject: RE: partial walls in mech rooms > >> > > >> >I cannot get past the idea that we normally put water on floors, not > >on > >> >the > >> >tops of ceilings! > >> > > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: Greg McGahan [mailto:[email protected]] > >> >Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:00 AM > >> >To: [email protected] > >> >Subject: Re: partial walls in mech rooms > >> > > >> >It is not CLEAR, this section appears to refer to the "cloud" > >situation > >> >we > >> >are often running into. > >> > > >> >I am not trying to get out of something here, I am trying to document > >why > >> >we > >> >have to do it. We have used the 15' rule in the past, but again, that > >is > >> >truly intended for another situation, in my honest opinion. This > >section > >> >is > >> >to avoid fusing heads in adjacent areas, not require additional > >> >protection... as I read it. > >> > > >> >On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Morey, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> On second reading, if you're saying the LH areas have a ceiling but > >the > >> >> mechanical rooms don't then 8.15.22 does apply, in which case the > >> >higher > >> >> area is the roof deck, which means you provide the protection for > >the > >> >> mechanical room at the deck and for 24' in any direction away from > >the > >> >> mechanical room over the ceiling of the LH space. > >> >> > >> >> -Mike Morey, SET > >> >> Sprinkler Designer > >> >> BMW Constructors, Inc. > >> >> office: 317-651-0596 > >> >> mobile: 317-439-2695 > >> >> > >> >> ________________________________ > >> >> > >> >> From: [email protected] on behalf of Greg > >> >McGahan > >> >> Sent: Thu 3/10/2011 10:21 AM > >> >> To: [email protected] > >> >> Subject: partial walls in mech rooms > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> We have an issue right now with a light hazard non-combustible > >building > >> >in > >> >> which there are multiple small mechanical rooms -3' x 8' or 6' x 7' > >in > >> >> general size. The architect was vague so the GC is not putting in > >> >ceilings > >> >> nor is he running the walls up to the deck. > >> >> > >> >> I have been reading and rereading chapter 8 of 13 -2010 edition, and > >I > >> >> cannot conclusively determine what we are required to do in this > >case. > >> >The > >> >> description in 8.15.22.1 is not exactly correct so I can't see > >> >clearly... > >> >> > >> >> Does anybody have a cut and dry answer? > >> >> Thanks, > >> >> Greg > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Greg McGahan > >> >> Living Water Fire Protection, LLC > >> >> 1160 McKenzie Road > >> >> Cantonment, FL 32533 > >> >> 850-937-1850 > >> >> fax 850-937-1852 > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Sprinklerforum mailing list > >> >> [email protected] > >> >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >> >> > >> >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: > >[email protected] > >> >> > >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:Sprinklerforum- > >> >[email protected] > >> >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Sprinklerforum mailing list > >> >> [email protected] > >> >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >> >> > >> >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: > >[email protected] > >> >> > >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:Sprinklerforum- > >> >[email protected] > >> >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >-- > >> >Greg McGahan > >> >Living Water Fire Protection, LLC > >> >1160 McKenzie Road > >> >Cantonment, FL 32533 > >> >850-937-1850 > >> >fax 850-937-1852 > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >Sprinklerforum mailing list > >> >[email protected] > >> >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >> > > >> >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >> > > >> >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:Sprinklerforum- > >[email protected] > >> >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >> > > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >Sprinklerforum mailing list > >> >[email protected] > >> >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >> > > >> >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >> > > >> >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:Sprinklerforum- > >[email protected] > >> >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >> >No virus found in this incoming message. > >> >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> >Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3493 - Release Date: > >03/10/11 > >> >01:34:00 > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Sprinklerforum mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Sprinklerforum mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3493 - Release Date: 03/10/11 > >01:34:00 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
