Well, you have to go 24 feet which ends up being an area of approx, 55' x
54' that you are now required to put heads in. I Although the example in the
handbook refers to a warehouse/office space in which the clarification is
that protection must extend 24' over the offices and the area of greater
hazard is outside the 24' zone, I guess it is similar, but it is a stretch
in my opinion.

In this case, the greater hazard is surrounded by a lesser hazard on 4
sides, Therefore if 8.15.22.3 applies, we will end up protecting the entire
non-combustible interstitial space. Before I argue for this change order I
want to make sure this is the intent on the code.

Thanks,
Greg

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Bob Knight <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think in this case you are "cooling" the structure in an area that heat
> could become a factor.  2010 ed. Requires .6 times the sq rt of the area or
> a minimum of 24' extended into areas such as this (8.15.22.3 & .4).
>
> BK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad Casterline
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:10 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: partial walls in mech rooms
>
> I cannot get past the idea that we normally put water on floors, not on the
> tops of ceilings!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg McGahan [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:00 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: partial walls in mech rooms
>
> It is not CLEAR, this section appears to refer to the "cloud" situation we
> are often running into.
>
> I am not trying to get out of something here, I am trying to document why
> we have to do it. We have used the 15' rule in the past, but again, that is
> truly intended for another situation, in my honest opinion. This section is
> to avoid fusing heads in adjacent areas, not require additional
> protection... as I read it.
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Morey, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On second reading, if you're saying the LH areas have a ceiling but
> > the mechanical rooms don't then 8.15.22 does apply, in which case the
> > higher area is the roof deck, which means you provide the protection
> > for the mechanical room at the deck and for 24' in any direction away
> > from the mechanical room over the ceiling of the LH space.
> >
> > -Mike Morey, SET
> > Sprinkler Designer
> > BMW Constructors, Inc.
> > office: 317-651-0596
> > mobile: 317-439-2695
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: [email protected] on behalf of Greg
> > McGahan
> > Sent: Thu 3/10/2011 10:21 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: partial walls in mech rooms
> >
> >
> >
> > We have an issue right now with a light hazard non-combustible
> > building in which there are multiple small mechanical rooms -3' x 8'
> > or 6' x 7' in general size. The architect was vague so the GC is not
> > putting in ceilings nor is he running the walls up to the deck.
> >
> > I have been reading and rereading chapter 8 of 13 -2010 edition, and I
> > cannot conclusively determine what we are required to do in this case.
> > The description in 8.15.22.1 is not exactly correct so I can't see
> clearly...
> >
> > Does anybody have a cut and dry answer?
> > Thanks,
> > Greg
> >
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