That's hedgamacation ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Tue Mar 15 18:39:29 2011 Subject: RE: FM Guildelines / ESFR
And from an education perfressoinal, to boot! glc -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sal Izzo (TECH- 103) Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 4:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: FM Guildelines / ESFR I love that! Salvatore J. Izzo, P.E. SFPE, Manager - Technical Services The Reliable Automatic Sprinkler Company, Inc. 103 Fairview Park Dr. Elmsford, NY 10523 Tel: (864) 843-5252 Fax: (864) 843-3073 E-mail: [email protected] ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman [[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 4:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: FM Guildelines / ESFR You can't test for stupidity, it has to be demonstrated. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:11 AM, George Church <[email protected]> wrote: > You mean you can't do what I saw a competitor do- drop 1" down under AHU's to > feed an EC25 in a Lowes? > Yes, they were replaced despite his claim that Chet's firm said it was ok. > The competitor had little credibility, a fledging firm that tackled way too > much and sank quickly. > You can't stay in business when you bring in 100,000 Sf of pipe with > 3/4" wols for 1" EC25s so it was scrap; Instead of putting a 14" blind flange > on the tank for temp situation, he bought a non-UL FM gate and installed the > $4,000 answer to a $200 question. > We finished it up. > For those with younger memories, this is where the AE allowed flushing 14" UG > with one 1.5" hose. > Yes, pump test had some background noise and projectiles in the stream. > > I'd be FOR contractor licensing if it was more than the locals or state > cashing a check. > Would you test for stupidity? > > George Church > Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. > PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842 > 877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax > [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris > Cahill > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:09 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: FM Guildelines / ESFR > > Wasn't there a condition the pipe feeding the head had to be the same size as > the BL it was taken off of? Is that also coming through to NFPA? > > Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Roland Huggins <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 08:47:42 > To: SprinklerFORUM<[email protected]>; > <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: FM Guildelines / ESFR > > this issue was also looked at at the ROP Meeting (proposal 13-486) and > the current position is to accept (there has not yet been an official > ballot) > > Roland > > On Mar 14, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Travis Mack, SET wrote: > >> Is it my imagination, or did I read somewhere that you are not req'd >> to include the 2 heads under an obstruction in ESFR calculations with >> the revised FM criteria. If I was not imagining, where would that be >> found? >> >> -- >> Please feel free to call if you have any questions or comments. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Travis Mack, SET >> MFP Design, LLC >> 2508 E Lodgepole Drive >> Gilbert, AZ 85298 >> Office (480) 505-9271 >> Fax (866) 430-6107 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email >> to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. 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