Amen.
Bobby Gillett Sr. Project Manager Key Fire Protection, Inc. (731) 424-0130 office (731) 424-9285 fax (731) 267-4853 cell <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 2:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Extended Coverage Dry SW for STORAGE Most are probably going to bid it just the way the documents say and then drop the Change-Order-Bomb later once they get the contract. When you're trying to be conscientious it makes it hard to compete with those who are willing to gamble for a change later or are just not knowledgeable enough to know any better. Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 CH2MHILL Extension 74102 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bobby Gillett Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 3:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Extended Coverage Dry SW for STORAGE If we don't get low balled, as I know one company involved will do, Yes I would like to have it. We have done many projects with this firm. I will spell it out completely in my bid letter and when we get in the design phase (if we get it) go after corrective measures. If history repeats itself, they will end up doing it right, I don't think they want to take the time to correct it right now as bid time is coming upon us. What I can't believe is no one else has raised the question!!!!!!!!! Bobby Gillett Sr. Project Manager Key Fire Protection, Inc. (731) 424-0130 office (731) 424-9285 fax (731) 267-4853 cell <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Williams Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 1:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Extended Coverage Dry SW for STORAGE Bobby, there's a lot of red flags on this job. Are you sure you really want it? (not that I am telling you how to run your business) Given what lies ahead, can you realistically make money at it? And I haven't mentioned liability yet. At 02:44 PM 3/28/2011, you wrote: >That is my argument to them. I am not trying to justify this at all. I'm >just trying to get them to give direction to all bidders through Q&A so it >is apples to apples. > > > >I just received an answer through them to use WET EC SW listed for OH Group >II. There is one made that will throw these distances, so I will do that and >hash it out (IF we get this job) at design time. > > > >Bobby Gillett > >Sr. Project Manager > >Key Fire Protection, Inc. > >(731) 424-0130 office (731) 424-9285 fax > >(731) 267-4853 cell > > <mailto:[email protected]> >[email protected] > > > > > > _____ > >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Kramer >Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 1:33 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: Extended Coverage Dry SW for STORAGE > > > >Bobby, it may be prudent to review section 8.4.3 (2007). Also, a .30 >density is more than the typical ordinary hazard. The EC HSW sprinks I'm >aware of are only listed for light and ordinary hazards. > >Ed Kramer >Littleton, CO > >> >> Not at this point; they don't want a dry system and want wet SW's. They >> haven't said what the storage criteria is but said to protect it at >> .3/2500. >> >> Bobby Gillett >> Sr. Project Manager >> Key Fire Protection, Inc. >> (731) 424-0130 office (731) 424-9285 fax >> (731) 267-4853 cell >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> [email protected] > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > _____ > >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3535 - Release Date: 03/28/11 > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) Todd G. 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