Jim, not following your point.
John Drucker, CET Assistant Construction Official Fire Protection Subcode Official Building/Fire/Electrical Inspector Borough of Red Bank Red Bank, New Jersey Email: [email protected] Cell/Text: 732-904-6823 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Davidson Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 6:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: 100 PSI requirement at top of Standpipe John, Per the Engineering Laws of the State of New Jersey the engineer when they stamp and sign the drawing the engineer is responsible for the design and piping shown on the stamped plans, no if and buts. The design professional owns it. Have a fire safe day. Regards, Jim Sent from my Galaxy S®III -------- Original message -------- From: John Drucker - Home <[email protected]> Date:2014/02/19 17:46 (GMT-05:00) To: [email protected] Subject: RE: 100 PSI requirement at top of Standpipe N.J.A.C. 5:23-2.15 Construction permits--application xi. Those portions of the plans that are required to be submitted and which are not included at the time of application shall be listed by the design professional as part of the application. (1) All documents prepared by people other than the design professional shall be reviewed by the design professional and submitted with a letter indicating that they have been reviewed and found to be in conformance with the regulations for the design of the building. Hope that helps, John Drucker, CET Assistant Construction Official Fire Protection Subcode Official Building/Fire/Electrical Inspector Borough of Red Bank Red Bank, New Jersey Email: [email protected] Cell/Text: 732-904-6823 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd - Work Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 5:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: 100 PSI requirement at top of Standpipe So John, how does D-B work in NJ? Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT www.fpdc.com 860-535-2080 (ofc) > On Feb 19, 2014, at 4:38 PM, "John Drucker" <[email protected]> wrote: > > In New Jersey; > > 5:23-2.21 Construction control > > (a) Responsibilities: The provisions of this section shall define the > construction controls required for all buildings involving > professional architecture/engineering services and delineate the > responsibilities of such professional services together with those > services that are the responsibility of the contractor during construction. > > (b) Professional architecture or engineering services: > > 1. Design: All new, renovation, alteration, reconstruction, expansion, > addition or modification work involving the practice of professional > architecture or engineering, as defined by the statutory requirements > of the professional registration and licensing laws of this State, > shall be prepared by registered architects or licensed engineers. All > plans, computations and specifications required for a construction > permit application must be prepared by or under the direct > supervision of a registered architect or licensed engineer and bear > his or her signature and seal in accordance with the State's statutes > and regulations governing the professional registration and licensing > of architects and engineers. > > > John Drucker, CET > Assistant Construction Official > Fire Protection Subcode Official > Building/Fire/Electrical Inspector > Borough of Red Bank, New Jersey > Office: 732-530-2760 X 331 > Cell/Text: 732-904-6823 > Email: [email protected] > http://www.redbanknj.org > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Todd Williams > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:21 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: 100 PSI requirement at top of Standpipe > > First of all there has to be an EoR in the first place. Today you get > a lot of stuff that is design-build because no one wants to take > responsibility. The project ends up being "specified" by the estimator > when he figures the job and the it is designed by a Nicet designer. If > the designer does not have a state license, then the former septic > system engineer-turned baptist minister (actual case here in CT) > stamps it. So who is ultimately responsible? > > Todd G Williams, PE > Fire Protection Design/Consulting > Stonington, CT > 860-535-2080 > www.fpdc.com > > >>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Steven Scandaliato >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I was going to say that since that is my largest soap box!...but I >> did > >> not want to dominate the conversation. Perfect suggestion...! lmao >> >> Steven Scandaliato, SET CFPS >> 520.971.2322 Cell >> Skype: steven.scandaliato >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> Ed Kramer >> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:16 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: 100 PSI requirement at top of Standpipe >> >> I'd like to suggest one change: "Chapter 3 - The EOR shall do >> chapter > >> 1 and chapter 2 and create bid documents accordingly before the >> project goes out for bids." >> >> Every bidding fire protection contractor shouldn't have to track down >> that info and the local AHJ shouldn't have to answer the same >> questions over & over & over. >> >> Ed Kramer >> Lawrence, KS >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> Steven Scandaliato >> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:01 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: 100 PSI requirement at top of Standpipe >> >> Bingo....the title for NFPA 14 should be changed to "Standard for the >> Installation of Standpipe Systems"....Chapter 1 - Call the guy who is >> going to fight the fire and ask him what he wants". Chapter 2 - >> "don't argue with the guy who is fighting the fire; rather give him > what he is asking for". >> Chapter 3 - Do chapter 1 and chapter 2 BEFORE you bid the job. > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > er > .org > > > CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY: > This email message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential, nor is it, unless specifically stated, intended to be relied upon by any person or persons other than the individual or entity named above and no warranties or representations are made or intended to persons or entities not named above. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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