I think all you guys using 50 psi to test plastic are crazy. I also think
that guys that pipe shop air in plastic are crazy. That said I know it's
done all the time without mishap. Puff test for holes. Water test for
pressure holding ability.

And what the hell is a polar vortex. Sounds like Winter Blast 2014 (which
may be appropriate for you Easies this year).


On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Morey, Mike <mo...@bmwc.com> wrote:

> NFPA 13 2010
> A.10.10.2.2.1 might be worth pointing out, specifically:
> When systems having rigid thermoplastic piping such as CPVC are pressure
> tested, the
> sprinkler system should be filled with water. The air should be bled from
> the highest and farthest
> sprinklers. Compressed air or compressed gas should never be used to test
> systems with
> rigid thermoplastic pipe.
>
> I would avoid it if at all possible, and especially a pressure as high as
> 50 psi, you're making a plastic pipe bomb at that pressure.
>
> Mike Morey, CFPS, SET
> Planner Scheduler/Designer
> BMWC Constructors, Inc.
> 1740 W. Michigan St, Indianapolis, IN 46222
> O: 317.651.0596 | C: 317.586.8111
> mo...@bmwc.com | www.bmwc.com
>
> ________________________________________
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> sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] on behalf of Richard Mote
> [rich...@rowesprinkler.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:46 PM
> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
> Subject: Air Testing CPVC Piping
>
> We have an AHJ requiring a 50 psi test on CPVC piping, we think that is
> excessive, and have always used 20 psi max. I know the best practice is to
> do a hydrostatic test, but thanks to the polar vortex we are having
> freezing temperatures and the builder needs to close up his walls. Right
> now we are looking for chapter and verse as to what the maximum recommended
> pressure is for an air test. Have looked through 3 different CPVC
> installation handbooks but the number is not jumping out at me. The TYCO
> Residential Dry System runs 10 - 15 psi pressure. Note: This is not  a
> residential dry system we are trying to air test a system so the drywall
> can go on. When the building gets the heat turned on it will be a wet
> system.
>
> Richard L. Mote
> Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
> 7994 Route 522, Suite 1
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